Fountainhead, June 30, 1978

Vol. 53, No. 57 b nmrtMmm
East Carolina University Greenville. North Carolina
30 June 1978
Farewell Leo

Page 2 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
Recalls mod school buttle
Hunt: Jenkins awakens sleeping giant
Comments from N. C. governor
James hunt concerning the re-
tirement of ECU Chancellor Leo
Jenkins Trahscribed from a
telephone conversation Monday
June 26. 1978 with Jim Barnes,
As governor of North Carolina
I speak fa the people of this
state, all five and a half million, in
expressing our deep appreciation
to Chancellor Leo Jenkins for his
leadership of our state. Too,
often, people have talked about
him in terms of regional leader-
ship, and certainly ttiat has been
great; but Leo Jenkins has been a
leader of the entire state of North
Carolina. .As East Carolina
University has grown and become
a more excellent institution and
branched out its service to this
state, the entire state has ben-
efited from it. Now, it is true that
the impact in terms of the
awakening of the sleeping econo-
mic giant in eastern North
Carolina has come about on a
regional basis, in large measure
from his leadership. But even so,
the entire state benefits from it
because people from Raleigh who
sell goods and services have a
new market in eastern North
Carolina, the same is true with
all the banks and the various
companies in Charlotte, Winston-
Salem and Greensboro we' re al I
tied together; we're one state,
and as a part of this state has
grown and developed, the entire
state has benefited.
My fondest recollection of Leo
Jenkins has to do with the fight
for the medical school that I was
very involved in when I was Lt.
Governor from 1973 through
1976. We just worked day and
night to carry the day against very
strong opposition in this state.
There was an awful lot of
pressure on me as president of
the Senate at a time when our
governor was not in favor of the
med school, to back down and to
endorse the position of the Board
of Governors, which also was
opposed to its develop' "nt. But
growing up in Eastern North
uaronna ana reeling so deeply
about providing full and equal
opportunity for all our citizens. I
knew that this was a real time
when we were going to make
history, to take a step that would
do perhaps more than any single
thing that has been done in the
history of our region to move it
ahead. I had the opportunity to
not only see the way in which Dr.
Jenkins practices the art of
politics, in terms of contacting
people, building bridges, pulling
together support, but I also
noticed, I was also impressed by
the depth of his commitment and
how effectively he translated that
to other people. I will always
consider the opportunity to work
with him on this endeavor as one
of the most valuable experiences
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of my life.
So, I would sum it up by
saying that Leo Jenkins is a
man who came amongst us and
adopted this state, came to love it
and has given his life and his
great energies in a way that has
little parallel in our history, to
make us the land of opportunity
that we are today.
H ! will be working directly
with me as governor, and of
course he will be in touch and
working with our department of
commeroe which is our'main
industry-hunting group, with
natural resources, adminstration
and other groups that help
provide the infra-structure for
economic development and he
will in particularly be helping us
in the commitment to a balanced
growth policy in North Carolina in
which we provide jobs and public
services to people where they
live, so that everybody in this
state can have a good life.
C ommencenient address
Excerpts of Dr. Leo Jenkins'
commencement address before
faculty, students and guests at
East Carolina University. May 12,
Governor Hunt, Governor
Sanford, and Governor Scott;
Congressman Jones, Class of
1978and your families, Chairman
Pate and Trustees, Members of
the Board of Governors, Senator
Helms and Senator Morgan, Lt.
Governor Green, Speaker
Steward and other distinguish)
legist at orsand citizens here today
Ladies and Gentlemen.
It is with nostahgia and honor
that I stand before this graduat-
ing class the 40th such occasion
sinoe I came to East Carolina.
Now, I face you at this, my final
commencement as your Chancel-
lor. We have lived a long
memorable history together. In
1947, the year I arrived, 163
students received their diplomas.
Today, we have Deans among us
who are witnessing over two
times more students graduating,
within their schools alone, that
the 1947 Class of 31 years ago I
would also like to note that
Senator Robert Morgan was
among those graduating in 1947.
We are pleased that he could join
with other distinguished guests in
honoring the some 2800 who are
receiving degrees today.
This moment belongs to the
Class of 1978. their parents and
ind this is a very
special day in my life. Therefore.
I would like to reflect on a
personal note for a minute or two
There are far too many
moments, which my family and I
cherish, for me to cover in my
brief time on this platform. If I
were to express my feel ings about
each distinguished offiaal with us
today, about my 1700 associates
on the staff and faculty, and about
the many friends who are present
in the audience, we would be here
several hours.
On behalf of my family and
myself, I would simply like to say
to each of you, thank you fa your
wonderful friendship and under-
standing, which will live in our
hearts forever.
Our greatest resource, as is
often said, is our people. My
friends, this is true in North
Carolina and this institution has
been a major benefactor. We
need only to look to our honored
guests here today, on this plat-
form and in the audience. These
distinguished leaders are respon-
sible for helping achieve the
greatness we see in this Univer-
sity. Along with their leadership
wr loyal support, the citizens of
Eastern North Carolina and across
ine state made possible the
strength and achievements which
will yet be realized, because of
the faith and support held for
East Carolina
See ADDRESS, p 3!

Col Dick Blake
30 June iso i-uuniainmi
Chancellor's assistant reminisces
Advertising Manager
For the past three years there
has t�en a very powerful and
moving force within ECU admin-
istration, �econa only to Leo
Jenkins and that force is Col.
Dick Blake.
Col. Blake is officially the
Assistant to the Chanoellor. The
"Colonel" is Leo Jenkins right
hand man who deals with a wide
variety of projects and problems.
It was the summer of 1974
that Leo Jenkins asked Col. Blake
to come to ECU and succeed
Vioe-Chancellor for External Af-
fairs John Lang who had died.
At that time Col. Blake was
serving in the Air Force at the
Pentagon in Washington, D.C.
In January 1975 Col. Blake
came to ECU to serve as Dr.
Jenkins "assistant
Col. Blake was nc stranger to
ECU. He graduated from East
Carolina Colleae in 1954 where he
had attended on a basketball
When Col Blake arrived to
take his new job, ECU'S fight for a
four year medical school had
reached the final stages.
"At the time I got here we
were just warming for the final
grand battle fa the medical
school. This was in the legisla-
ture said Blake. "There had
been a turn-down by the state
educational hierarchy. So the
decision rested with the legisla-
Col. Blake attributes the suc-
cess for the med school proposal
to the eastern legislators.
"Our eastern legislators knew
that their constituents would be
the beneficiaries. Unlike the
piedmont, eastern legislators
stick together like a pack of
hounds said Blake. "I think the
university was driving the chariot
home to justice, and the horses
were the legislators and the
800,000 eastern North Carolinians
who felt like they had been
Continued from p.2
I trust history will record that
together we have done a job in
meeting our responsibilities. We
have been part of a unique era in
higher education in North
Carolina and America, marked by
rapid and successful growth. We
have helped to transform college
and university opportunities from
a once elite enterprise to a
framework fully within reach of
the average citizen. We are proud
and grateful that we were afford-
ed the opportunity to serve
major role in this great transfor-
mation, m North Carolina and our
I would like to share with you
some thoughts on philosophies
and relationships which have
become characteristic of this
institution. Each of us has helped
to light the beaoon of hope which
inspnred us to reach high in what
we sough to achieve.
In reflecting on this Univer-
sity's 71 years of history, we look
back upon a great tradition of
service. This tradition was estab-
lished within a concept recogniz-
ing that we are owned by the
people of North Carolina. The
citizens have allowed us to devote
our full capacity to serve this
state's interests and ambitions,
i. id to help achieve social and
� economic fulfillment
Our partnership with the
people has been warm and
meaningful. It has helped us
expand our work far beyond the
confines of this campus, to meet
ixjr obligation to serve faithfully
;he full community which sustains
Our community is local, it is
North Carolina, it is the nation
But il is even more than this Our
allegiance is also embodied in the
larger community called fellow
man. Our faculty, our graduates,
and our friends have always been
men and women who were
conscious of these obligations and
proud to meet this magnificent
challenge. I am confident that this
will continue.
The spirit in which this
University has operated is based
on a two-way street of communi-
cation with the people. We have
respected the right of every
citizen and group from communi-
ties to oome to us with ideas,
suggestions, and requests fa
assistance. Likewise, we have
fully exercised our right and
obligation to go into communities
and extend the services of the
University wherever we saw a
need we oould fulfill.
My fellow citizens, this has
paid great dividends. I could
hardly name a maja program this
campus has undertaken over the
past three decades which does not
have its aigins in this two-way
street communication. We can
look around us today and fully
appreciate the fruits of this
partnership. This oovenant with
the people will oontinue to sustain
East Carolina University
We cannot rest on our past
accomplishments. Torrxxrow we
face tough challenges in accom-
modating new circumstances and
demands. We are living in fast
changing times and pressures are
different and more intense
Events happen faster, and our
life-style and culture react to the
sophisticated developments of
our generation We experience
this in every phase of our life -
when we eat. when we travel
when we wak. when we study,
ri hi hi cxji Imsurp
We are known as a university
which faces the future, and we
can be assured that the tasks
ahead will equal those that now
are histay.
diminished in their existence and
overlooked in their needs. I think
they saw this campus and Leo
Jenkins as the charia to freedom
and they drove ti all the way
Blake speaks highly of a few
eastern legislatas who waked
toward that ultimate goal of the
med school. "Hatoi Roundtree
has been in the trenches probably
mae than any other legislata.
He waked fa over ten years on
the med school and he is a very
powerful legislata, He'sgot good
relations in the house and the
senate said Blake. "Jimmy
Green played a powerful role in
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Page 4 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
Goodbye Leo
ECU has grown tremendously during the past 31
years under the guidance of Dr. Leo Jenkins. The
university and the region in which it is located owe an
immeasureable debt to him, for no other individual
has done as much fa eastern North Carolina and
ECU as has Leo Jenkins.
This special edition of FOUNTAINHEAD is an
attempt to repay that debt in part and is being '
distributed on the last day of Jenkins' educational
Jenkins has also engendered and endured more
criticism than any other figure in the east, especially
from newspapers and legislators in the piedmont and
western sections of our state. These criticisms,
however, served only to further endear Jenkins to the
people of this region.
For many years, the students of ECU did not fully
appreciate the accomplishments of this man, at one
point picketing the Chancellor's mansion.
No doubt, ECU would have grown right along
with eastern North Carolina had Leo Jenkins never
set foot in the state. It would not, however, have
grown as fast or as tall without hirn. In short, Leo
Jenkins made this university.
In the process of erecting a university in the midst
of tobacco and soybean fields, Dr. Jenkins has
greatly improved the lives of the citizens of eastern
North Carolina.
Anyone who attended elementary or secondary
school east of Raleigh probably received training
from several ECU graduates; countless local
businessmen learned their skills in the School of
Business; and, .perhaps the most far-reaching
accomplishment, ECU graduates will someday care
for the health of the citizens of this area, alleviating
to some degree at least the critical shortage of
doctors in this reqion.
Dr. Jenkins' acoomplishments are legendary.
But they have, just as surely as Dr. Jenkins will,
passed into local history. It is now time to look ahead
to the future accomplishments of Dr. Thomas
Brewer. If he is able to achieve one-fourth of what
Dr. Jenkins has achieved during his stay in
Greenville, he will have served the university
Serving tha East Carolina community for war titty years.
" WmaH left to ma to oexklewttethar we should have
a government without newspapers or newspapers
without government, I should not hesitate a moment to
prater the latter
Thomas Jefferson
EditorDoug White
Managing EditorLeigh Coakiey
Advertising ManagerRobert M. Swaim
NewsEditorsJ��le Williams
Jim Barnes
Trends EditorSteve Bachner
Sports EditorChris Hdloman
FOUNTAINHEAD it the atudant iwmepepar at East Carolina
Unrvar�ty aponaorad by tha Mac Board of ECU and is
attributed aaoh Tuatday and Thuraday, weekly during tha
Mailing addraai: Old South Building, Qraanvllla, N.C. 27834.
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'Leo is one of the great ones'
Once more, with feeling
Writing about Leo Jenkins for this issue of
FOUNTAINHEAD recalls to mind the old "coals to
Newcastle" cliche. I have spoken with Dr. Jenkins
in an interview, listened to Governor Hunt speak
about the chancel lor, and read what Senators Helms
and Morgan have said about Dr. Jenkins. So, what
could I possibly add?
Not much, really. I mean, I only met the
gentleman a few days ago in hisoffice, and though it
wasan interview situation, we didn't get to chit-chat
all that much. I get the feeling that if any more
la rels are heaped on Dr. Jenkins' head, he isgoing
to have to wear a cervical collar for the first month or
so down in Morehead.
So here goes, Leo. I hope that this additional
encomium will not stress too much.
Since the spring of 1976, when I first came to
Greenville, I have had a first-hand chance to get to
know the Titan cum Chancellor I had been hearing
about for so long. I mean, every time I looked at
FOUNTAINHEAD, there was Leo, cutting a ribbon,
clasping a hand, lifting a cup, a merely lens-gazing
in a benign way. Certainly I would get to meet Leo if
I only made an effort.
I blew it I never made the effort.
Like so many other ECU students, I took Leo fa
granted, something like the Accutron of Greenville.
You know, always there, working hard, that sort of
As the time went along, I gained more and more
obligations and more and more reasons not to meet
Leo. But for those two years, as for (no doubt) the
previous 29, Leo was in there swinging, fighting,
charming and doing whatever else it took to do his
ob - advance the cause of ECU, for me and fa all
the ahers who never had the time to meet him.
As I looked over all tbe things all of these people
have said about Leo Jenkins, I still get the feeling
that they're missing something somewhere.
Senata Helms says that Leo is an "eloquent
man Senata Magan adds that the ChanoeJIa
"deserves all the aedit in the wald And the
Governaof Nath Carolina, Jim Hunt, feels that Dr.
Jenkins "has given his life and his great energies"
to his adopted state.
I feel that all of the above statements are true; at
least that much can be said about a man who has
spent literally the last 31 years in a pursuit which
lies beyond himself, his family, a his own interests.
That sat of thing does na happen much these
As I said at the outset, I wish that I could have
known Leo Jenkins. There is, I feel, a natural
tendency on the part of humanity to crowd dose to
the great ones around them, to get some of whatever
the great ones have to rub off on them. I haven't
been around many great people in my life, so I am
not sure if it waks.
I am sum. however, that as far as Nath Carolina
is concerned Leo is one of the great ones. The
number of enemies he has made over the years
attests to that; that's anaher tendency of humanity.
Great ones have enemies, as well as friends.
So all of the panagyncs have been delivered; Leo
will scon leave Greenville to wak, amaig other
things, as a part-time gubernataial advisa. The
university that Leo helped to establish will operate
well in his absence - maybe that's a compliment
someoie has yet to give him.
The new Chancetla, Dr. Brewer, will begin his
term at ECU ai Maiday. He inherits a university
which hasconea long way in 71 years; with luck, he
will help it aloig much farther.
That's another thing about great ones They
somehow inspire those who follow them. I wish Dr
Brewer the best
I'm glad as hell I'm na the new chancetla

30 June 1978 FOONTAINHEAD Page 5
Jenkins a 'no-nonsense educator'
Remarks by Senator Jesse
Helms, R-NC, reprinted from
of the US Senate for May 22,
Mr Helms: Mr President, on
May 12, Mrs Helms and I
traveled to Greenville, N.C for
the "retirement of a man who
will never really retire - Dr. Leo
W Jenkins, chanoellor of East
Carolina University.
It would be more accurate to
say that Leo Jenkins, a longtime
friend of mine, finished one
distinguished career on May 12
and began another
Leo is a native of New Jersey,
I will say to my able friend,
I Continued from p. 3
this, he always supported us
Without fail he supported the
med school and "he never made
any bones aboul it
ironically Blake credits one of
ECU s most bitter enemies with
helping in the establishment of
the med school.
"If you want to pick the singla
most foroe that mobilized the Ec;
to support this university and Leo
and the med school, I think the
News& Observer did it said
Col. Blake. "I think without their
cartoons and without their acid
editorials we could never have
done it
You can't slap this university
in the face and not be slapping
800,000 people said Blake.
"I've got a feeling ihat if they
had embraoed us and written
favorable editorials about the
med school I don't think we would
have gotten it.
Col. Blake added that Sen.
Jesse Helms has, over the years,
been one of ECU'S most ardent
supporters in achieving university
status and in the med school
fight. "Jesse was doing his
commentaries over the tobacco
network. He used to come out
even in our darkest hour when
nobody seemes to be for us. He
would get over the air waves and
time and time again to try and
encourage the acceptance to all of
N.C said Blake. Blake said
that Leo Jenkins will never forget
what Senator Helms has done for
ECU, now will any of the
followers of ECU
u Biake said that Dr.
Jenkins will take a position as an
economic advisor to Gov. Hunt
upon retirement and will divide
his time between Atlantic Beach
and Raleigh.
There is a seven man
industnaliaion group being
formed in Raleigh now and he will
be working with them, and he will
be making policy suggestions to
the governor said Blake. "It
could involve some overseas
travel if the governor chose for
him to do it
Senator Williams, and Dr.
Jenkins has recently been honor-
ed by the legislature and the
people of New Jersey. But since
1947 this former Marine from the
State of New Jersey has been a
North Carolinian, and what a
North Carolinian he has been.
By prodding, pushing, cajol-
ing, working, pleading and by
evey other honorable means -
Leo Jenkins has built a realtively
small teacher s college in Eastern
North Carolina into a great
university. He was president of
that university until it became a
part of the great Consolidated
University of North Carolina.
Then he became its chancellor.
It was on May 12, the occasion
"In his own time, Leo's own
time, he will be doing all he can to
ensure Hunt's re-electabtlity in
whatever office he wants, now
thats not part of his job, that
wouln't be legal said Blake.
Blake said that Jenkins won't
"be in the trenches, but he has
got a magnificent ability to
troubleshoot Blake added that
he thinks the governor will use
Leo's analytical abilities quite a
"In his off time he's going to
work like to Hell for Jim Hunt,
He's always admired him said
Blake said that Jenkins will
operate permanently out of
Atlantic Beach and he will go to
Raleigh for three or four days at a
time and he will operate out of the
Dr. Jenkins will have a office
at Carteret TEchnical Institute
with a secretary.
Blek said that Dr. Jenkins has
always been very concerned with
the well being of the student
body, and takes personal interest
in the problems of students.
"He always makes it very
clear that the student shave got to
come first. To tell you the truth,
although he is very supportive of
his administration when they are
right, if t comes down to a
student versus a professor, I'd
hate to be a professor said
Blake said that Dr. Jenkins is
always greeted warmly by stud-
ents and alumni wherever he is
It pays to advertise in
For advertising
eontact �
Robert M.Swaim,
of the 40th commencement exer-
cise over which he has presided at
the institution in Greenville, that
Leo Jenkins concluded his tenure
as head of East Carolina Univer-
sity. Mr. President, in case
Senatas are wondering why Leo
Jenkins has presided over 40
graduating exercises, when he
has been at ECU for 31 years, it is
because the institution has had
two graduating classes during 9
of the years.
It was 'itting, of course, that
Leo Jenkins deliver the commen-
cement address on May 2. The
students and faculty wanted him
to do it. In earlier years, all
manner of distinguished citizens,
from within and without North
Carolina, have delivered the
commencement address. But this
time, appropriately, they wanted
Leo Jenkins to do it.
It was a memorable occasion,
and it was a memorable address. I
was immensely proud of my
friend - as I always have been.
Sitting on the stage with him, I
could see Leo's dear wife, Lillian,
and their children and grand-
children. Leo'smother was there,
gracious and proud, as were all
the other members of his fine
Upon completion of his duties
at East Carolina University, Mr.
President. Leo Jenkins moves to
another challenge. He will be
special assistant and consultant to
the distinguished Governor of our
Senator Robert Morgan
State, Jim Hunt. Also, I imagine
that Leo Jenkins will be making
some speeches around the
country. He is an eloquent man
He is a man of high principle and
sound judgement. He is a no-
nonsense educator. He under
stands the free enterprise system
and he has been one of its most
dedicated supporters. He has a
message for America, and
America would so well to listen to
In short, Mr. President, Leo
Jenkins is a remarkable man. and
I want my oolleagues to have an
opportunity to read the com-
mencement speech which he
delivered on May 12. For that
reason. I ask unanimous consent
that it be printed in full in the
'He deserves all the
credit in the world'
REMARKS BY Senator Robert Morgan. D-NC.
Senator Robert Morgan said of Dr. Leo Jenkins:
" Leo could have had all the prestige he wanted. He could have sat
down there in the Resident's house and said yes sir' and no sir but
he decided to take them on in behalf of ECU and the people of North
Carolina. He suffered a lot of grief because of this from the educational
establishement. but he fought them and he won. He deserves all the
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Page 6 FQUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978

DR. THOMASBREWERwII succeed retiring ECU Chancellor Dr. Leo
V illiam C. Friday
'He has put his stum) upon
tin entire region of our state'
' lay, president
the l&campus University of
North Carolina system, otters his
comments on Dr. Jenkins' re-
tirement m a letter to
Justified praise has been
heaped on Leo Jenkins on the
occasion of his retirement as
Chancellor of East Carolina Univ-
ersity Statistics have been cited
which illustrate the dramatic
growth the campus experienced
under his leadership The breadth
of his interests has been emphas-
� has been equally inter-
ested in developing a first-rate
fine arts program and in produc-
ing a winning football team.
Evidence of his contagious enth-
usiasm and tireless energy a-
bound in Greenville. He has put
his stamp upon an entire region of
our State. When historians of the
future evaluate the impact of this
energetic individual, they should
look beyond the bncks-and-
mortar testimony to his drive and
vision and conclude that a major
contribution of Leo Jenkins was
his ability to renew in the people
of Eastern North Carolina a sense
of confidence and of pride.
Brains July I
Brewer to succeed Jenkins
Staff Writer
Dr. Thomac Bowman Brewer
was elected by the UNC Board of
Governorstosuoceedretinng ECU
Chancellor Dr Leo Jenkins.
Brewer, 45, is a native of Fort
Worth, Texas
The scholar and historian has
served as Vice Chancellor and
Dean of Texas Christian Univer-
sity since 1972.
Brewer, a seasoned adminis-
trator, has held teaching and
administrative posts at universi-
ties in Texas. Ohio, Iowa, and
According to Troy W. Pate.
Jr Chairman of the ECU Board
of Trustees, the process of
choosing a new chancellor began
over 13 months ago, when the
board reviewed the general pro-
cedures and experiences relating
to other institutions which had
undertaken a similar task
Brewer was chosen for the
ECU chancellorship from a field
of more than 200 candidates.
President William C. Friday of
the 16-campus University of
North Carolina system chose Dr
Brewer from two final recom-
mendations submitted by the
ECU Chancel la Selection Com-
mittee and approved unanimously
by the ECU Board of Trustees
Brewer received his Ph D in
Anierican History (run the Uni-
sity of Pennsylvania in 1962.
after earning a B.A and M A
(ran the University of Texas,
Brewer will assume duties
July 1 as the seventh chief
administrative officer in the 71
year histay of ECU
Jenkins is retiring after 18
years as president and chancella
and a tenure of 31 years during
which ECU grew from a small
teachers college into a maja
Brewer is married and has
three children.
Active retirement planned
Staff Repa'er
Dr. LeoW. Jenkins, president
and chancella of ECU fa the
oa. , b
years, will soon be
Hissing zimm
TUL � �S.
After retirement, Jenkins
plans to leave Greenville to
establish a permanent home at
Atlantic Beach and probably an
auxiliary apartment in Ftaleigh.
"We own a oondomiQium at
Atlantic Beach, I like the people
there, and they've made me an
honaary citizen said Jenkins.
"They've also given me a key to
aty of Maehead.
"I'm gang to jan many
aganlzatiois down there. Many
people don't realize this, but
Atlantic Beach is an ideal place to
retire;actually, it'sreally a mecca
fa retired people he added.
But, despite the description of
tne seemingly ideal retirement
location by Jenkins, he has
decided to embark on a second
"I plan to join Governa
Hunt's staff, but we haven't
figured out in what capacity yet
said Jenkins "As late as last
Thursday, he and I talked a little
bit about it. and from that
discussion I believe I will serve in
a position as ajnsultant with him
on manv thinoa
1 think the chi-w one may be
industrial development in rural
areas said Jenkins. "I may also
do a little work in education "
Jenkins, an achiever and a
man who has a reputation fa
getting things done, said he
would do anything he is qualified
to do to benefit the state when
and if Governa Hunt should ask
him to.
"If he should deade at
anytimethat I can be of no service
to him, there will be no hard
feelings on my part he added.
Jenkins said he was very
grateful to Gcverna Hunt fa his
invitation to an his staff, and
added he had known Governa
Hunt fa a loig time and had a
high regard fa him.
"I had the pleasure of giving
his commencement speech when
he was in high school as a
student said Jenkins. "He has
said since then that he had
coisidered me a � ery audacious
Hterscn at the time
Jenkins added that Gcverna
Hunt liked the spirit that he
instilled in him as a young boy,
That things can be oone if you
want to do them
"He faiowed that

30 June 1978 FQUNTAINHEAD Page 7
Mrs.Jenkins 'FirstLady' of ECU
ECU Newi.Biiju
Mrs. Lillian J. Jenkins, wife of
retiring ECU Chancella. Leo
Jenkins.has been' First Lady of
the ECU community for nearly 20
The Lillian J. Jenkins Scholar-
ship Fund was named in her
honor in 1975 and the presenta-
tion was made with hope that this
expression of esteem would pro-
vide impetus for further contribu-
tions toward perpetuation of the
Lillian J Jenkins Scholarships.
Also, a plaque ating her
many years of 'nendsfnp was
inaudeu m th� formal presenta-
Mrs Jenkins, the former
Lillian Jacobsen of Lavalette,
N.J holds the B.S. degree from
Trenton State (NJ. Teachers
She came to Greenville with
her husband when he became
Dean of the University 31 years
ago. Dr. Jenkins has served as
president and chanoella of ECU
since 1960.
In addition to her duties as
wi� of the- chancellor and mother
of six, Mrs. Jenkins has been
active in numerous community
and avic affairs, in garden dubs
and literary ardes, in her church.
as a past Cub and Brownie Scout
ler, a charte � and first
P'tideni of the Aires Book Club
which later became two dubs.
The staff of
Dr. and Mrs. Jenkins,
the best of luck
in the future
She assisted in formation of
SeirarBook Club. Chi Omega, and
a helper in all dvic activities.
She is a frequent vista and
helper at Greenville Villa Nursing
"I have never been a joiner,
says Mrs. Jenkins, modestly.
But those honaing her spoke
of faithful and forceful" per-
rmance and her involvement
with loving and servmgeople
My hobbies are gardening
and grandchildren. she said
One grandchild, in particular.
Yanna Person, occupies a great
deal of Mrs. Jenkins' time. Also
she makes use of a green house in
the rear of the chancella's
mansion fa the growing and
arranging the flowers and plants.
Magazine article features 'Daddy Leo
ECU News Bureau
A feature stay presenting a
fferent view" of Dr Leo W
�� ' � retiring chancella of
H ear s m the current issue
� statewide nagazine. Tar
Entitled Daddy Leo the
��' ;ie pidures Jenkins in his
la ily environment, as a parent.
. .�� � from the viewpoint of his
��� '� I ai and their six child-
- ns three sons and three
inters have grown to aduit-
�; while their father has served
resident and chancella of
tuU fa the past 18 years
The autha is Hugh P.
Stanley, English instructor at Pitt
� cai Institute. Greenville.
The artide presents insights
� :� -1x10165 about Jenkins as
: by nis children, ranging from
terestsasa do it yourself
.i , painter, builder of a
.wimming pool, to
�.man with unathodox
meth �
Stan.ey relates that Jenkins
�ouscollection of editorial
began when his eldest
Jim. then a student at
UNC-Ghapei Hill, began dipping
xis and very negative
es about 'the charader
.vho was trying to get university
is fa that httle school in the
� ast.
Jim mailed the dippings to his
ind later found that they
-mg framed and hung in
ha jay of the cbancetia s
��� alwaysaaeo 11Ke he got a
- out of them. Jim said
Tar Heel, a slick paper
e published by The N
tasi Inc of Greenville, has a
�wide arcuiation of 87.500 It
is edited by Jim Wise. Jean Hall
is associate publisher ana general
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Page 8 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
Leo reflects on 31 years at ECU
News Editors
Jenkins, sirce your arrival in 1947
and then your tenure as preisdent
and chancellor of ECU there has
been a growth m various depart-
ments and schools of the Univer-
sity, among them the schools of
nursing, home economics, art,
allied health and the school of
business. What is your basic
philosophy of university develop-
JENKINS: I think the university
ought to serve its constituency; in
our case it's the world almost, but
more particularly it's North
Carolina. There ought to be, there
must be, and there is here, a
two-way street of communication.
We feel that with almost 700
professors here, trained in all
disciplines from the greatest
universities in the world, this
genius, this talent should not be
used exclusively for the class-
room It ought to be part of the
life of all the people who are
paying for it, namely the citizenry
of North Carolina. So therefore,
we feel that we have the perfect
right and obligation to go into any
town where we feel that we can be
of service, such as the archaeo-
logy people who have gone over
mtothe Wiihamston area with the
Indian excavation Our Regional
Development Institute has gone
into areas to tell how to get
sewers, how to get money for
small business developments,
how to get recreational facilities,
and we're constantly being asked
for things of that type
Now. in like manner, the
citizenry ought to feel free to
oome here with any proposition
they have, that show the medical
school started, for example. A
physician came back from a
meeting at Duke, and he learned
to his amazement at this school
that eastern North Carolina had
the worst record in all of the
United States for the quality of
modern medical delivery - not
the quality, but the quantity He
learned to his amazement, and so
did I. that some of the countries
!ed the nation in suicides, infant
mortality, rejection from the
draft, physical and mental. And
therefore, he sort of reprimanded
me. He said Here you are in the
middle of all this squalor and you
brag about being the focal point
for development in eastern North
Carolina. It's just a sham, be-
cause you're not addressing
yourself to the real problems I
listened to him, and I sent a very
strong Ph.D. research man out to
see if the doctor knew what he
was talking about. He came back
and documented everything the
man had said, and I discovered to
my amazement that he had even
underestimated the condition;
they were worse than the doctor
had said. Therefore, a medical
school fiaht started.
It was the same thing with the
nurses. Somebody said there was
a shortage of nurses and that we
should do something about it, and
we were told immediately by the
power structure that it wasn't
true, that there were plenty of
nurses. We knew that wasn't
true, because we had faculty here
whose people got sick and
couldn't get a nurse. We knew of
people in town who couldn't get
nurses. And then Governor Scott
called me. You see. there's a two
way street of communication that
goes in many directions Some-
times it originates with the man in
the street, sometimes the idea
comes from a barbecue meeting,
sometimes a fellow rings my door
bell, sometimes it will oome from
a student. Now. Governor Scott
called me and said that before he
leaves office, he wants to do
something about recidivism. He
said North Carolina has a terrible
record of people who leave jail
and go right back in again, that
type of thing. And he told me
among other things that it's
cheaper to send a young man to
college than it is to send him to
state prison We oould pay all his
fees: room, board, tuition, books,
all his recreation money, it would
still be cheaper than to send a boy
Jate prison.
But we want you to do something
about it, and by you' he meant
East Carolina. So we established
"THE TURBULENT 60s taught administrators a great lesson they should havp learned
t'hotooyJohn H Grogan
the program in correction
sciences. So, that's what I'm
trying to say-the university, to be
effective and tax supported,
ought to address itself to every
problem about which it can do
something right now. We are
behind schedule, even, in addres-
sing ourselves to the senior
citizen. We have many senior
citizens in eastern North
Carolina. People oome from all
over the world to settle here, but
we haven't been aggressive
enough in giving them programs;
we've got to cater to the needs of
You will oe remembered tor
many accomplishments, but cer-
tainly chief among them will be
achievement for university status
for East Carolina and the establish
ment of the four-year medical
school on campus. You were
bar'mg uphill guite often during
these campaigns, yet in the end
your cause won out, often over
the heated opposition from North
Carolina politicians Now that you
are leaving, what type of future
do you protect lor ECU and
eastern North Carolina0
Weil, I think number one, in
the not too distant future, there's
going to be literally thousands of
senior citizens on tnis campus.
There are so many people taking
advantage of retirement.
Every time I speak before a
group of senior citizens, they
don't ask social security quest-
ions, invariably it't "what
FOUNTAINHEAD NEWS EDITORS interview ECU Chancellor Jenkins
Photo by John H Grogan
courses can I get at ECU? The
big change you're going to see
here is a great increase in the
number of senior atizens-that's
number one.
I think you're going to see a
change in the calender; we're
going to operate twelve months a
year. I think you are going to find
more electronic teaching. A
teacher will put all his lectures on
tape, and you'll be able to go into
a library and, say you missed
classes last week, you'll at down
and listen to three lectures-no
questions asked.
I think the calender will
change so that students will be
able to travel at their own speed.
If you can make the four year
program in a year well, they'll let
you do it
We're mechanized now; I
don't think there are a half-dozen
students on this campus who
must go home and take care of the
farm. It used to be that it was
almost all of them; that's why we
used to be on the quarter system
When I first came here, many,
many youngsters would quit in
the spring or wouldn't go in the
fall quarter But now, with the
mechanization that has taken
place, it's no longer a problem.
So I think we're going to have
a different calender, we're going to
let people gradu�e whenever
they finish their work-there'II be
graduation, so to speak, almost
every week. There will be a lot
more credit by examination;
we're going to give experiences
out in the world credit. Well,
we're doing a little bit of it now.
I know one person on this
campus who got t wo year s credit
in Spanisl ne ifternoon. He
e up here from Mexico He
� i a Mm men and did his
missionary work down there, and
he speaks Spanish very fluently
So he came up here and took the
first and second year Spanish
exam and got two lull years of
credit in one afternoon. So there's
going to be a great deal of that
going on. Professors an- going to
be guidance people and constant
consultants, a lot more tl
, traditional teachers
I to lei
� their own speed, ,lnr)
' ���� a lot more
resPO" ability in the students
" running the institution
w learned in the 60's thai we
� ioned I think the
turbulent 60s taught administr-
ators a great lesson they should
have learned.
You see, historically you could
lean back and throw a student out
for silent contempt; you know, I
don't like your looks and I'm
going to throw you out But now
you don'too that anymore; you go
through this process, you have a
committee and go to a hearing
The youngster has access to the
oourts and the courts have been
very receptive to their cases and
the whole picture haschanged.
think, for the better.
There are new responsibiltiies
thrown on the student and the
student-teacher relationship has
grown much closer than it used to
be When I was as student at
Rutgers, one professor told us at
the beginning of class, he said.
Please don't speak to me on the
street because I have no intention
of answering you. It will just
embarrass you. Don't say hello to
me or goodbye - just ignore me I
nave lion of answering
you Weil you wouldn't have
that today, people would laugh if
a fellow pulled that trick today
I think graduation will soon be
a thing of the past, it will be
passe Some youngsters like it
because they say that their sister
luated, but to go through the
paces and heat a talk, wear the
gown and so forth; more and
more people are going to say
what the heck mail me my
diploma if you will and let me get
on my way.
I think there will be a much
p between bus-
I the Univeristy; we need
the manpowei if
business is going to
comecloeei tous "here are many
rfutionary changes taking
dl think things are going
to be for the bettr
Aside from departments serv-
icing the medical school, will
there be a need for a general
doctoral program at ECU'?
md there s going to
be one - m science We h i
permission to go ahead and
in the sciences associated
with the medical program But In
those disciplines where there is
� lOtion, I think we ought
v- autiouaty.
in some disciplines, those
edonp 9

Unued tram p 8
with PhD s are considered
t � ause then are so few
. th 1! because ol th
thai they are Ph 0 s often
them Pei ph .1,
Vou rea fine fellow, but you are
lined for this ob, and it
would (� ��intkirassing to have
i in this job So I think we'd
ei watch the market.
But there are so many spinoffs
from the other professions, the
allied health program was un-
heard of here ten years ago. Now
it's a very flourishing program.
Patient therapy, physical theapy,
medical hbnanship -all these are
spinoffs from the med program,
you see And there will be more
spinoffs as time goes on, opening
new doors for people who had
never had the chance to even
consider such a career.
Now there are numerous
opportunities for people, and they
are greatly needed in North
Carolina. And by the way, our
products are exceptionally fine
people I had a personal exper-
ience when I was at the hospital,
and my wife has it now. Our
nurses and our physical thera-
pists are excellent they re well
received by the hospital people
In a 1973 speech to ECU
faculty members, you made the
remark that "It will be our
salvation that the academic com-
munity is tree and that it s
members become involved. " It is
obvious that this philosophy has
guided your career Do you still
advocate community involvement
as an important part ol an
educator s life7
Well I believe that the
chancellor's job is to help to pick
the right people for the right
spot and then let them alone.
Creativity is never going to
develop with someone always
looking over the shoulder. To
illustrate my point: I don't censor
ask you to show me a oopy I
believe that the right people are
running it and that it's gang to be
a good paper And historically, it
has been a good paper Our
student government has been
very effective, it's had its up and
downs, but it's been one of the
most effective in the nation, and
its budget is one of the biggest in
the nation. It has been handled in
the 31 years without any scandal,
evidence of stealing ot
anything else.
Now I would be rather stupid
if I were to pick a pathologist or a
music professor or art professor.
� tuse who would know more
it what they do, who would be
re qualified to ascertain the
lualitiea needed, or the bring
Hi such people-the person who
understands the discipline or
ouieone standing on the margin
1 � I would be doing?
So therefore, it would be
rathei ludicrous for me tooome in
and ask them to let me question
tiesurgeon, "Areyouqualifmh1
leach surgery here?' What
would we talk about? You know. I
� uldn'l know what I was look
fa in that
Therefore, I thnk that the
�erman philosopher who Mid
thai the government that governs
governa best knew what he
talking atxxit, becauaa vou
,1 I 9 it by supervis-
ion, by peeping in doors, by going
1 � wh il the pn ifi
isdoing You assume that th.
'� mi ai I
ally, s happened
rhose people ho were un-
able to accepi the responsibility
soon discovered, through
their students, through their
colleagues, through many aven-
ues that write, the man who
teaches because he wants to teach
well, he's the fellow who is going
to make a university great, not
someone who's under direct
supervision, or 'publish or
perish" a all that nonsense.
You received your first degree
m political science and the first
teaching experience you had was
in political science and history. In
light of you excellent track record
in politics, do you ever feel that
you are a politician who just
happened to end up in education-
al administration7
Yes, I am. I think I'mapolitican, I
really do. And I'm not ashamed of
that. I see in too many areasI
see it in religion. I think there's a
'great deal of politics
You've seen How to Suoeed in
Business Without Really Trying
You've got to be at the right place
at the right time, with the right
speech, say the right thing, that's
politics, and the whole world is
based on politics. Now the
tragedy of it is, the people who
ahvegiven usthisnew world, this
fast-moving world, this electronic
world, people who give us that
have elected to stay out of
politics. This is one of the
tragedies of our way of life
because they are the people
involved. There is not one engin-
eer to my knowledge in the state
legislature. There's not one eng
-ineer to my knowledge in Cong-
ress - I might be wrong, and if
there is I don't know who he is.
The Congress and the legislature
ought to be loaded with engine-
ers, technicians and so because
they gave us this world and you
can see the implications of it.
Over the last few years, your
interest in athletic success for
ECU has brought you much
personal criticism Do you view
the athletic field as a metaphor
for life7 Are big-time sports more
important to ECU than, say, more
faculty, or improved library facil-
ities, for example '
Well, it doesn t work thai
way. All these things are related
so to speak The symphony
orchestra is important, the art
exhibition is important; the essay
contests that we have, the
debating team is important. Ah
these things go together.
Now athletics, the spirit of
trying to win, is part of the
American ideal. That's why
America is great, we've tried to
win, we've tried to have busines-
ses that succeed. We want towns
that grow
We have 5500 students in
mtramural sports here. Now, the
Greek adage that a strong mind
and a strong body is the answer to
11 le-there's some wisdom is that,
a gieat deal of wisdom. I think
mat if the faculty encourages both
mtra mural and intercollegiate
athletics, il has a healthy
the univei
We have fi -Hi in so if the
cfn ol which have nol trie
win and have ignored athli 1
they , of
problems We believe thai the
more we can interesl men and
women in intra mural and it
collegiate athletics, the strong�
our spirit will be The student
body will endorse it and we know
they endorse it, because if they
didn't, we wouldn't have 5500
people in intra-murals
We've been lagging despera-
tely in programs for women, and
it's about time we caught up with
it, and we are catching up with it,
It'sonly been a few years ago that
there was one intercollegiate
sport for women, and now we're
in eleven. The women rightfully
asked for a hearing on getting
more budget, and I told the
women when they came in here
"I agree-you have a gripe. You
are paying some money, you
ought to get something out of it
"and we're going to do some-
thing about it I understand that
this problem has already been
resolved, so my suocessor will not
have to inherit it.
I differ with a lot of people,
and have been criticized because I
don't buy Grant land Rice's adage
that it makes nodifference that you
win or lose, but that it's how you
play the game That wishy-washy
attitude is not what made
America great. We are out to be a
winner We are out to be the
"ongest nation on earth The
miy reason now that people don't
us is that they're afraid of us. It
isn't that they love us; there's no
love among the Russians for the
Americans, you know that. But
the reason thay don't attack us
because they're afraid of us, and
we've got to be strong. And in
athletics, I think that's the whole
idea. Who was it, Wellington,
who said that the battles had been
won on the playing fields of Eton?
There's some truth in that. If a
boy or girl gets that tremendous
desire to win, there is strong
evidence that that will carry over
into life, that the ooy or girl will
go through life trying to be a
We hope that's true in every-
thing ; we hope that our people in
business go out with the idea that
they're going to be the best
business people in the whole
world. Now suppose they went
out there with the philosophy that
it makes no difference whether
thoy go bank-upt or not, but the
iinixxtant thing is that we go into
business? Wouldn't that be silly9
I think the whole idea is one of
wir-mng. and it starts with the
athletes, it starts with the music
1 Die We want our orchestra to
be the best college orchastra in
the nation; we want our band to
be the best in the nation. And
quite frankly, we do have one of
the best bands in the nation
ix.iuse we practice that phiio
1 phy. And the students catch on
to that right soon You wouldn't
have the precision band that you
have if those young people were
not dedicated it's just that
ie rhey practia ng and
hev take il � sly, and
"�nx� ijet gooaapimpiei
out back when you see them
rming out there They're so
doua So here again is the
apirtl of winning That's why I
� -�� � 1" etics
1 e been criticize
and si 1
with th.
where the VIP
Ion t buy that 1 m haj
ig with the fans, I have n
fun there. I've been criticized fa
putting on those shirts. Well,
that'spart of the fun - that s part
of the game. I'm not going to
stand there and say this ad
football and this old basketball
isn't it a shame that we've ga to
have it I'd be the biggest
hypocrite in the wald if I played
that role and I don't intend to play
it. and I never did play it.
Some folks get upset and say
I saw him standing there and
there was some rowdyism near
him and so fath and so on, well
that's na my fault and I'm nol
going to run over and say I
30 June 1978 FOUNTAINHFAD Page 9
f you n , ��� ,
Mth young , �- . . ,
drives fa funds, I've ga to play

fa that They say you've ga to sit
around and be an honaary
member of the Pirate's Club
because if they get into trouble,
then you're one of the boys
instead of neutral refree I've
been amazed severely by some
people fa janing the Pirate Club,
but how am I gang to go out to a
businessman and say I want you
to give a thousand bucks toward
our new stadium and he says
well, what have you given-zero9'
I ve ga to be m a spa so I can
say "if you give what I gave we'll
all be happy; I pledged a
thousand bucks, so if you do what
l did. we'll all be happy, and it
makes fa a better relationship
DON T BUY GrantlandRices adage that it kes no difference that
vou win or lose
shouldn't be there.
I could be amazed fa being
m politics. Well, wouldn't I be a
hypoaite to tell our people here,
and I've been telling them la 31
years, that all of our students
ought toget intopolitics. It stheir
country, and il they want to make
it better, they ought to do their
part to make it better. Standing
by and amazing that they don't
like the maya and they don't like
the governa a the president.
that'sna gang to make it better.
It's gang to get better if more
young people get invaved and
insist on aocountability
If all our young people in the
state ol North Caraina were to
sayto the General say
u goveiiim. I m looking at
you oonjtantly. you're account-
able to me, then they'd have that
face, but that doesn't happen
Now suppose I were out giving
that talk and some youngster
would raise his hands and say
well, lookit, Mr Chancella. are
you in parties?" and I would say
"h. no, I in abOVfl that-it'S too
dirty for me, and I'm nol
osed to be in mat I hen he
MOUld Sty then why are we
. osed to be in it?" So you've
ga ' put your mouth where your
Photo by John H Grogan)
wan our community.
You have had a tew dose
brushes with death, m the
military as well as civilian lite.
Have these experiences signifi-
cantly affected your outlook on
I had about three. I think
They've given me a philosophy
that I'm living on barowed time
Tneextent Maybe I'm a lithe
b" ot an existentialist I felt thai
W" ahuw.Jn . � 10 what 1 think
is right7 I really shouldn't be
� . so there must be a reason
why I m here, to fulfill this rae I
also feel that if chanoellas are
either millionaires a people on
barowed time that they'd prob-
ably enjoy their job more I'm na
very particular about anything at
ail. I didn't wary about the nas
m the sixties, I don't wary about
what newspapers think about me,
tome have been exceedingly
unkind over the years. I feel that
I m so happy and lucky that I'm
here that I ought to do what I
think is right. I think that rubs off
on the faculty too. There have
bean times when I have severely
W�d, but I did m my heart
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Page 10 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
DR LEO W. JENKINS, Dean of ECU from 1947 to
i960. President from 1960 to 1972, and Chancellor
from 1967 to this date, will remain an important part
of this university after he retires.
Looking back
Jenkins discusses the school'
persistence, leadership, progress
Staff Writer
Dr. Leo W. Jenkins, Dean of ECU from 1947 to
19R0. President from 1960 to 1972, and Chancellor
from 1967 to this date, will remain an important part
of this university after he retires.
Critics of Jenkins will probably say, "Alas, we
have the type of person we want in Thomas
Brewer his successor as chancellor here.
But, the majority of his supporters from Eastern
North Carolina will almost invariably say, "It's a
shame that the new chancellor isn't a second
Despite what anyone says, one thing is certain.
While Jenkins was president and chancellor, at the
helm of the administration here, this university grew
by leaps and bounds.
As a result of his persistence and leadership,
ECU has achieved astonishing progress in many of
its programs.
"I think that when our medical school became
accredited was my happiest moment here Jenkins
said. That was the end of a 10 year struggle
"But, I was also exceedingly gratified and happy
when we beat State, Duke, Wake Forest, and Chapel
Hill m football Jenkins added. "That was a
compliment to this growing institution, our coaches
and our men
"I was also very happy to see the summer
theatre become a reality, that brought alot of
h?nniness to a great deal of people.
But I was sorry when we weren't able to
nonunue it because of financial difficulties he
Jenkins has often been accused of overemphasiz-
ing various programs.
"That's true historically Jenkins admitted.
At one time, I was overemphasizing art, another
time music. And then, there were the accusations of
my overemphasizing the athletic and medical
You've got to stay in the business, you've got to
want to emphasize, you ve got to want to do the best
you can Jenkins stressed
"When a university has as many schools and
programs as we have, it's necessary to emphasize
various programs in their different stages he
Everyone realizes that hindsight is 2020.
However, it is interesting to ask someone to look
baok retrospectively to mention the things that they
would change if given the opportunity. Jenkins was
asked that question.
"If I could go baok, I would have encouraged
faster growth Jenkins answered. "I would have
not only our people, but all people recruit more
vigorously the bright minority student, and the
bright economically disadvantaged white student.
"Too many times at high school commence-
ments. I've learned of cases where attending college
to such students was beyond their wildest
imagination Jenkins said. "Often, their parents
were too poor, or either anti-intellectual or
ant i -educational.
"Now we're doing that, we have the programs
which enable us and all other institutions to recruit
such students Jenkins added.
A little over a quarter of a century Jenkins has
been in a position to notice various trends in the
students here.
"It has been a cyclical thing he said. "There
was a period of the apathetic 50s, when many
students couldn't care less about anything except
their studies; the period of protestsand nonconform-
ity during the 60s; and then the very friendly and
cooperative 70s
"During the 60s, the spirit of unrest and
dissatisfaction with the Vietnam War spilled onto
our campuses Jenkins said. "Often, I would say
hello to them, and they would turn their heads
But, Jenkins said he understood the situation
and realized those students were angry.
"On three occasssions, we had students march
on our home and protest various things that were
happening, or they gave me a list of demands ana so
forth Jenkins added.
"It was a depressing and difficult period, not
necessarily for mo, but for my family They too had
to listen to the catcalls late at night he added.
However, Jenkins said the situation was not
unique at this universtiy.
He added that the situation exists all over the
For example, he pointed out the Kent State
incident where four students were killed by National
Students shouldn't have had to fight or strive
for the things they wanted during that period
Jenkins said.
"It taught us the importance of freedom of
movement and expression which they were fightinq
f � mddid not enjoy at the time Jenkins added
See LEO. p 11
Amateur painter
Leo possesses a
'palette of diversity'
Assistant Trends Editor
Everyone knows Dr. Jenkins in the light of his educational and
community interests but few know that he is an amateur painter as
well. His paintings have been exhibited at Mendenhall and hang in
"almost a hundred homes here in Greenville he said.
Dr. Jenkins paints lonely mountain landscapes, with sinuous Van
Goghesque trees and houses white and huddled against the dark
background. Occassionally he will paint a more abstract design with
Japanese influence.
One of his paintings shows the facade of a deserted, dilapidated
Southern mansion. The empty windows gape in solitude and paint
peels from the boards. Thir picture, by dipicting the ruined splendor of
tne neglected manse, adequately metaphors the death of the spirit of
the Old South.
Dr. Jenkins treats a variety of subjects in his paintings. "I go in
cycles he said, "from landscapes, to snowscapes. beach scenes and
street scenes
Dr. Jenkins is very modest about his painting. "I don't consider
my self an artist, I'm more ot a mechanic really His colors are muted
with an emphasis on the earth tones. Yet he possesses a palette of
diversity and a fine eye for color contrast, luminosity and
His brushstrokes are broad and firmly stated, adding a tatfi'3
richness to the picture plane. Indeed, although most of Dr Jenkins
pictures employ linear perspective in trw traditional way, it is me
surface of the painting that is emphasized The long rhythmic swirls
and large, interconnected cola patches mvte one to view his paintings
as pieces of canvas with paint on them as well as "widows to the
Dr. Jenkins disclaims any professiona1 intentions mhis painting. "I
just fool with it, just dabble around really. I ve never had lessons
He continues on to explain why he paints. "I paint for entirely
different reasons than lhe professional Why does he paint? "I paint
mostly for the escape. When you really get involved in a painting you
don't think of anything else
Asa true amateur painter, Dr. Jenkins says that he has never sold
any of his work. "Each year I donate one to the Wake County auction
for the benefit of the retarded children. They usually sell fa about
thirty-five daiars he said.
He also gives his paintings away to friends and as wedding
presents. "Whenever I'm invited to a wedding I give them to brides
from ECU he mentioned.
Right now he is " in the middle of about eight paintings, which are
ail "about half done He said that he has been painting fa about
twenty years.
DR JtNKINS' PAINTING adequately metaphors the death ot the
spin, oi the Old ScMJth , PhotQ by ECU

Iks about his 'greatest achievement'
30 June 1978 FOUNTAINHEAD Page 11
ucational and
ur painter as
and hang in
i sinuous Van
mst the dark
i design with
, dilapidated
Je and paint
d splendor of
the spirit of
igs. "I go in
i scenes and
n't consider
rs are muted
a palette of
mosity and
ng a lac'13
Dr Jenkins
�y, it is ititi
:hmic swirls
us paintings
jows to the
painting. "I
for entirely
nt? "I paint
ainting you
i never sold
nty auction
I for about
is wedding
n to brides
, which are
j for about
Leo established Wo-way street of communication
nued from p 10
ikms said he has never seen so many students
Iwere so polite and nice as those he has
lintered here during the last four or five years.
That's true almost without exoeption he
the age of 65, Jenkins spends about an hour
ight walking around campus where he meets
Intsfrom all directions.
:ten, girls waving and leaning from their
itory windows, shout "Hello, Leo
does Chancellor Leo Jenkins mind that
ial greeting? "No, I think that's a compli-
" Jenkins replied. 'They do it in good spirits,
mg that I don't obect. Occasionally, students
op and talk to me, telling me where they re
course, about four a five times a week
pone will drive by my house and roar, 'Go to hell
But, I realize that they're just having fun
lins added.
lenkins then commended the Student Govern-
Association here.
'Historically, our student legislatures have been
Jenkins said. "They've taken great
isibility. and we've never had any problems
money or dishonesty that I know of
The SGA spends money as they see fit. But,
fe have been times when I've disagreed with the
bunts of money they've spent hiring various
would say to the
udents that the key
ing that they'll
wer live for in all of
ir careers is that
hing called love
th of the
I Bureau,
ngers, groups and lecturers Jenkins added.
But, Jenkins said it was their right to spend their
iey as they wanted.
Jenkins has preserved numerous speeches to
anous organizations, including speeches at over
high school commencements.
He said communication resulted in such things
� the nursing school, paramedical programs,
usiness programs, and the medical school.
When Jenkins was asked what changes he
redicted for ECU in the near future, he replied:
"I think that the number of senior citizens on
his campus will increase dramatically, Jenkins
His philosophy being that if there isgping to be a
student government it should be "the real thing
FOUNTAINHEAD, the campus newspaper
was commended by Jenkins.
"During the many years that I've worked here,
I've been very happy with and proud of our student
paper Jenkins said.
"My greatest achievement here has been in
establishing a two-way street of communication with
many of our publics Jenkins added. "For
example, our industrial people, rural people,
farming people, professional people, students, and
said. "We're giving many people the opportunity to
retire after 20 or 30 years and many of them want
second careers.
� Were told they're going to live longer Jen are
going t Jive tooe around 74. women are going to live
into their bus, Jenkins added. "These people are
going to want opportunities, they're going to want
something to do.
"Governor Hunt might ask me to return to school
to take a course in state government or some other
course Jenkins said. "If so, that wouldn't be
something unusuai, it would be something many
people have to do
The retiring chancellor said he was very
favorably impressed with Dr. Thomas B. Brewer, his
And, he commended the chancellor selection
committee fa doing a marvelous job.
"He seemed toask the right questions Jenkins
said "All of the faculty here who have met him,
without exception have told me that they were very
pleased with him
Jenkins said Brewer appeared to be a very
understanding, intelligent, knowledgeable type of
"Dr. Brewer has a charming wife, she is an asset
to a man in his position he added. "She will have
no problems continuing to entertain guests the way
we did
Eighty-five percent of everyone who has ever
attended this university has done so while Jenkins
was here.
That obviously means that there will be a
tremendous field of peole who will be watching,
comparing Brewer with Jenkins.
"It's going to be difficult fa him Jenkins
admitted. "Not because of me, but because of the
length of time I've been here
Jenkins said Brewer realizes the situation he will
be facing during his first year.
His first year here will be one of the busiest
years of his life Jenkinssaid "Hell beaccepting
numerous invitations to present speeches to various
organizations, such as Ftotary dubs and Kiwanis
clubs, clubs of that type
Jenkins said it is very difficult to generalize
about any university in Nath Carolina.
He added it depended on the program the
student pursued, the teachers he receives, etc.
"You must go and judge the program Jenkins
said. "In comparing ECU with aher oolleges, the
best thing I can say is that a third of our student
come from the piedmont region.
"They pass by several colleges to get here. Often
the distance is longer, and certainly we're not any
cheaper he added.
"There'ssomething here that they're after, and
we have what they want Jenkins said. "In the
future. I will say that we'll hold our own with any
other institution in this state"
Jenkinssaid he would never advise the faculty a
students to scratch a dig to get ahead.
Instead, he said he would advise them to enjoy
life, to lean back and help their neighbors.
"I honestly beve that has caught on here
said Jenkins. "I can't even recall having an
argument a even a heated discussion with a faculty
member here.
"I would say to students that the key thing that
they' II ever live fa in all of their careers is that thing
called love Jenkins said. "Manv truly successful
men are nice men who are efficent They re the
ones who wouldn't dream of being ugly to their
Jenkins said love, understanding, and faith must
be carried into married life, professional life, and
cultural life.
Such things would most likely result in
happiness, said Jenkins.
I you ntry to get ugly, you'll be unhappy.
rhera will always be guys uglier than you
Jenkins said
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Page 12 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
Dr. Jenkins came to Greenville 31 years ago
Staff Writer
Where else but Greenville can
you eat a hamburger under a
three-by-three foot airbrush por-
trait of Leo Jenkins?
Thnty-one years ago, when
Greenville was ust a redneck,
fdim-boy tobacco town, when Pitt
Piara was still a family graveyard
and Charco-Broiled Burgers was
just a flyspeck in Wilbur Hardee's
eye. (when most of us were just a
gleam in the eyes of good old
Mom and Dad). Leo Jenkins
walked into East Carolina College
and must have said to himself,
boy, there are gonna be some
changes made around here
There were only 18 buildings
on campus then, the budget was
$1 9 million, and the enrollment
was just under 1600. The second
world war had just ended and the
country was still geared into a
wartime economy.
It was time for expansion
In 30 years, Leo Jenkins
changes the s'eepy little regional
college into the third largest
university in the state, with 73
buildings, and annual budget of
over $35 million, and nearly
12,000 students.
The most dramatic change
occured in the town of Greenville
itself ECU replaced tobacco as
Greenville's major industry The
university brought a whole slew
of people eager to make a living
off the ever-1naeasing student
Downtown exploded from a
niiole of honky-tonk type beer-
lomts into the thriving meat-
markd that we now know and
love so well. More and more
businesses, resturants, and serv-
ices began catering to students
and ECU administration The
boom was on. The economic
profile had shifted. Leo Jenkins
had remade the town of Green-
The first thing I really remem-
ber about Jenkins is that he
cancelled a Styx concert because
it conflicted with Major Attract-
ions' Charlie Rich Homecoming
Performance I was living in the
dorm with a pyro band of acid
rockers and there was a lot of talk
about burning Leo's house down,
or making anonymous phone calls
at 3a.m. with Styx blasting out of
the receiver, but most of it was in
Then that spring there waj
talk of Leo running for governor,
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The following year he vetoed the
recall of new Student Government
Association president Neil
Sessoms. ruling that Sessoms had
been legally elected, and those of
us who followed the case closely
developed a new sense of respect
for Dr Jenkins. The man was
But there is one image of Leo
many of us will always cherish,
possibly because of the humor of
the whole situation, and possibly
because it brought him down to
our own level.
The last game of the 1977
football season featured Leo
Jenkins trotting the length of the
field, passing a football back and
forth between two cheerleaders
jogging beside him. What kind of
halftime show was this?
The crowd began a wild
Center houses ECU'S School of Art Photo by John H Grogan
Sanding ovation as Leo crossed
e goal line, and the announcer
plained that someone had
, edged a donation to the stadium
pansion fund if Leo would run
the length of the field. I was 250
miles away, watching the game
live on ABC Sports, and I could
still fell it when when the whole
stadium started screaming.
It was the most human of
Leo's public appearances before
his university, and it would have
taken a callous student indeed to
pretend that the man on the field
was just "the Chancellor
Some of the freshmen this
year will wonder who he was.
They II never remember what the
stadium was like before its
enlargement, nor will they have
to take art classes in an old.
poorly lighted building.
They will know nothing of
Leo's long fight for the Med
School. "Jenkins will simply be
a name on the front of the Fine
Aits Center, or a three-by-three
foot airbrush portrait at
Some of us will notice that he
is gone: "Hey, what s the new
guy's name9 Btewer?" Most of
us will be indifferent -after all.
how much does the Chancellor
actually affect our day-to-day life9
Some of us. resenting any figure
of authorityout of pure habit, will
be glad he is gone.
And some of us will remember
Goodbye, Leo.
Leo is 'confident' speaker
Staff Writer
As far as public speaking is
concerned, confidence is the key
word to retiring ECU Chancellor,
Leo Jenkins.
Recalling his first speaking
engagement at ECU. which was
an opening convocation to the
faculty, Dr. Jenkins stated he was
confident even then and added,
fortunately, that sort of thing
oornes easy to me
Jenkins said he enjoys speaking
to the public and has spoken at
over 250 commencements, but.
through examples, showed that
the bad comes along with the
Citing an engagement at an
Armory to speak, Jenkins remem-
bered, "the podium was so dark I
couldn't see one word of the
And then there was the time,
when speaking before a crowd of
six- or seven-hundred persons,
I hat the public address system
was out and he "had to scream'
czrni-crfnnuaf 13 Off SoL On
Jhutik clfou Jleo 'Jzn&im
so everyone could hear.
Using his resources as an
adroit speaker, Jenkins said.
Sometimes you just have to go
" and improvist J in peculair
Of his most important u
critical speech. Jenkins believed
it to be when he spoke out fa
East Carolina College to obtain
university status at North
Carolina State and to the AUP
and Student Government at
Chapel Hill.
My toughest speech was to
this Marine Corp group Jenkins
sa'd "and held in a gymnasium
where the floor was all polisned
and shining Somewhere in the
middle of the speech, "a mouse
ran slowly across the floor. Some
lady fainted, and someone came
out with a mop and trapped the
mouse with it
Jenkins said he liked public
�akiri hec&use at most en-
gagements iere is usually a
v"in 1 and answer session and
1 'Tijoys (he give-and-take with
his audience.
As for the best medium for the
� hanoellor, Jenkins said he would
alet use radio and television
ecause they reach more people
in I ixrver such a large area.
mg in '
you have t
the press
1 itive n
Jin some c
m punk
I answer be
II have fur
) where th
chuckle c
invited m
' that if yt
' their new
know wh
' state. Of (
them righ
with pun!1
They surr
mine on
my folio
too much
us. it's th
alma mati
place am
parents ol
ion collec
and daugf
in the his
to college
word, it rr
every day
will read t
never kne
lence of :
children i
itories, ar
alot of ner
your old i
the unive
called rrx
should th
time they
hell, it'st
them. Bu
out I call
I taper but
and said
going tog
lo the ne
press, am
in just on
didn't wj
off and a
abuse, t
getting sr
not going
with "Tl.
duel with
you dignil
an explan
to send i
where he
answer hi
to their I
smart to I
road, hit I
can't refu
the chana
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vill they have
(S in an old.
M nothing of
r the Med
will simply be
it of the Fine
portrait at
notice that he
lat s the new
er?" Most of
3nt -after all.
e Chanoellor
ay-to-day life9
ng any figure
ure habit, will
vi 11 remember
uroes as an
enkins said.
3t have to go
J in peculair
mportant or
ins believed
poke out for
ge to obtain
at North
to the ALIP
ernment at
eech was to
up Jenkins
i gymnasium
all poiisned
vhere in the
i, "a mouse
� floor. Some
meone came
trapped the
liked public
t most en-
usual I y a
session and
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dium for the
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nore people
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30 June 1978 FOUNTAINHEAD Page 13
Leo 'did his damndest'
continued from p 9
jonuj to continue to do that an I in my relationship with
zernot and it s no secrei
hal s my philosophy 11
rilling to aocepl that fortunately
During your years at ECU.
you have been a favorite target of
he press Do you thrive rvi
tion from the press
In some cases, it's been out-and-
Jui punksterism, and I never
I answer back to that type of thing.
JI have fun when I go to the town
J where that paper is I get a
I chuckle out of the crowd that
invited me there because I know
that if you've been relying on
their newspaper then you don't
: know what's happening in the
' state. Of course, that gets back to
them right away. But they play (?)
with punkerstensm a great deal
They surround it in the air with
thickness. There was friend of
mine on a paper, thinking that
my followers that love East
Carolina are folks that never had
too much education ; they adopted
us, it's their school; we're their
alma mater, even though we run
the college they' re proud of this
place and many of them are
parents of children, first generat-
ion oollege children; their sons
and daughters are the first people
m the history of that family to go
to oollege. In many casesthe
punkster will put that word
ubiquitous, which is an innocent
word, it means someone who goes
every day, thinking that someone
will read that and say Well, gee, I
never knew that, well, isn't that
something I've had the exper-
ience of some reporters call my
children in oollege, in the dorm-
itories, and say Don't you have
alot of nerve going to school while
your old man's trying to destroy
the university system?' and they
called me and asked me what
should they do, and I said next
time they call, tell them to go to
H, it's that simple, hang up on
them. But I got it straightened
out I called not the editor of the
paper but the owner of the paper
and said if this doesn't stop I'm
going to get an invitation to speak
lo the next state meeting of the
press, and I'm going to hammer
in just on you and the paper. He
didn't want that kind of peer
pressure so he called the wolves
off and apologized and it never
happened again. I don't mind that
abuse, but when they start
getting smart with my family I'm
not going to let them get away
with "H. But I also have the
philosophy of never getting in
duel with any of them, because
you dignify it if you get in a duel
Every once in a while they ask for
an explanation but I'm not gotng
to send a letter to the editor
where he answers my letter and I
answer his letter. I'd pull myself
to their level I think it's very
smart to keep on taking the high
load, hit them with truth, - they
can't refute truth
Everyone is familiar with Leo
the chanoellor, fighting tooth and
"iil for ECU Yet you have been
ni.uried for 35 years and are the
father of six children Is Leo the
and and lather different from
� n
ii ihts : oul of iimosi
necessity, you have to neglect
your family unfortunately l ��
given hundreds upon hundred of
speeches, that means evenings
away, and evenings away, you're
not with your family. Really, my
children had to grow up under the
direction of my wife, more than
mine because I was away so
much See, I gave over 250
commencement addresses and I've
n going away to around the
state. I've been to various meet-
ings that took place at night.
Therefore, I never had an opport-
unity to get particularly close to
my children as some parents do.
Maybe that's good because I've
been told now that the thing now
is not for daddy and son to go
fishing - son wants to go fishing
with other people his own age. He
doesn't need companionship with
someone from the older generat-
ion. In this business you don't
have an opportunity to stay close
to your children. With many trips
to the legislature, stavmq up to 2
or 3 o'clock in th- morning oalling
influential people, getting them
out of bed so if you need certain
votes, that's the way the game is
That takes time, and it keeps you
away from your family, so you do
have to sacrifice in terms of
closeness with your family. In
particular, my youngest son,
we've not had an opportunity to
get close to each other, he's a
student in Chapel HillI think
they understand, you know. I like
to paint, paint pictures, my
children don't care much fa it,
and they don't watch me do it, as
a rule. I give them to brides, I
have over the years given over a
hundred of them to brides here in
Greenville. This is one way of
relaxation Maybe instead of
doing that I should have been
doing something with my child-
The magic vestthat was a
little trie I played on them when
they were younger I would invet
stories, it war. a little tough to
invent a new story every night I
n nember inventing the story of
the renegade fish. The little fish,
he'd take the hook and bring it to
the big fish then say here, take a
bile of this and the big fish would
be caught. The renegade fish
would come to the surface and the
guy would feed him and put him
in his bowl and take him home
again. It was sort of like a hunting
dog beating the hunters.
You will soon have much time
on your hands. Aside from your
post as advisor to the governor,
what do you plan to do with your
retirement yearsn
I he way it looks now. I might be
busier than I am now Invitations
have been coming in from all
direction. This is an old face in a
new position. Of course, I'm
going to be involved in politics,
and the Demccra'ic party, al-
though I'm a good friend of Jesse
Helms, I'm also a good friend of
Ingram. The Democratic party is
my partyit's been it all my life
and I'm not about the change
now. I can tell you times my
friends have been angry at me
because I'm in the Democratic
party, I know I had a reception for
George McGovern one time and
folks in Greenville were rather
angry with me, they were angry
with McGovern . I reminded them
that if you're gotng to be a
Democrat in fair weather, at least
be one in oad weather. What do
iney can it' a sunshine patriot.
You seem to have a genuine
rapport with the ECU students
A fter some 31 years in Greenville,
what words do you have for them
as you are nearmg the date of you
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Page 14 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
Jenkins' winning
Sports Editor
On Friday of this week the
man most responsible for the
rapid growth of ECU athletics will
be retiring after 31 years. Dr. Leo
W. Jenkins will leave an athletic
program that has grown from a
small high school sized stadium
and gym to a large 35,000 seat
stadium and some of the finest
athletic faalities and atWetes in
the state and in the nation. How
the rapid growth of ECU athletics
came about in such a short time is
a tribute to Dr. Jenkins and the
people he surrounds himself
with the coaches the advisers
and the athletic directors.
To fully appreciate how far
ECU athletics have come since
Dr. Jenkins took office in 1960
one must know a bit more about
the history of Pirate athletics from
the time, he took office until the
Throughout those years
Jenkins' influence on athletics
was greatly felt.
When Jenkins took office as
East Carolina College's President
he didn't waste any time letting
people know the direction that he
wanted Pirate athletics to take.
When Senator John Kennedy
visited Greenville in 1960 during
his successful bid for the White

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Jenkins watches growth ofMinges
House, Dr. Jenkins asked him i
he would publicly push for ECC
entry into the Southern Confer
The Pirates at that time were a
member of the North State
Conference which was a member
of the NAIA. Jenkins felt that a
push was needed to bring the
Pirates into the NCAA's Division
Before the Pirates could be
considered for the Southern
Conference a Division 1 status
some changes in the athletic staff
and the facilities were needed.
So on October 7, 1961, Dr.
Jenkins announced that ECC was
going to attempt to raise $200,000
to build a new stadium. The
stadium the Pirates were playing
in at the time was nothing more
than an high school stadium. It
held only about 8,000 people and
Jenkins knew full well that the
chances of Southern Conference
membership were doubtful with-
out a new stadium.
Another move made by
Jenkins at this time was to hire a
new football coach and athletic
director. Clarence Stasavich of
Lenor Rhine was given the post
Stasavich whose Bear teams won
the NAIA national title in 1959
was the perfect man for the job of
building Pirate athletics for the
By 1963 the James Skinner
Ficklen Memorial Stadium had I
been built. The dedication game
was played before a crowd of
17,000 as the Pirates beat Wake
Forest 20-10.
That game against Wake
Forest probably had quite a bit to
do with ECU's push for 'big
time" football and athletic status.
The win over Wake Forest was
followed by a 9-1 season for the
Pirates under Stasavich. The
Pirates also posted two more 9-1
seasons and played in three
In 1963 the Pirates won the
Eastern Bowl by deafeating
Northeastern 27-16. In 1964 the
Pirates played in the Tangerine
Bowl and defeated Massachsetts
14-13. The winning trend contin-
ued in 1965asthe Pirates won the
NCAA Division 11 title by defeat-
ing Maine 31-0 in the Tangerine
Already by 1965 the fruits of
Dr. Jenkins labor were being felt
and seen
In 1964 the Pirates were
finally excepted into the South-
ern Conference. This also mark-
ed the Pirates entry into NCAA's
Division 1.
During the Pirates first year in
hi. Southern the Bucs won the
football, baseball and swimming
In 1967 ECU decided that the
basketball and swimming teams
needed a new home. Jenkins
pushed fa the construction of 8
new Coliseum and by 1968 the
facility known as Minges Coli-
seum was open.
During the late 60's the
Constructon beagn in 1967 on Minges Coliseum The facility was
built at a cost of more than $2 million and was oompleted in 1968
Mmoes hm, . �m. . athletic faalities continued to
sZrr sHetoal, teams and �� "d with � the athletic
le:ZlZTn bUdQet �"� ��� "
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nkins asked him if 1
cfy push for ECC t I
Southern Confer-1
at that time were d
he North State
ch was a member
enkins felt that aj
Jed to bring the"
NCAA's Division I

Pirates could bej
the Southern
Division 1 status
i the athletic staff
3 were needed
wr 7, 1961, Dr.
ed that ECC was
to raise $200,000
v stadium. The
tes were playing
as nothing more
hool stadium. It
5,000 people and
II well that the
iern Conference
3 doubtful with-
ve made by
Te was to hire a
:h and athletic
e Stasavich of
given the post
tear teams won
H title in 1959
in for the job of
hletics for the
lames Skinner
Stadium had '
d i cat ion game
3 a crowd of
es beat Wake :
gainst Wake
1 quite a bit to
ush for "big
ithletic status,
ike Forest was
eason for the
isavich. The
two more 9-1
3d in three
ites won the
deaf eating
In 1964 the
ie Tangerine
vlassach setts
rend contin-
ates won the
Ie by defeat-
e Tangerine
Ihe fruits of
e being felt
rates were
the South-
also mark-
ito NCAA's
first year in
:s won the
3d that the
)ing teams
jction of a
1968 the
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30 June 1978 FOUNTAINHEAD Page 15
Ficklen expanded to 20,000 in 1968
60s the
linued to
3 athletic
ire added
EN p 1b
Continued from p. 14
to Ficklen Stadium to bring up the
capacity to" 20,000. In 1968
Harrington Field and Bunting
track were built.
In 1970 the Pirates played NC
State in football for the first time
in varsity competition. The
Pirates lost that initial encounter
but came back the next year to
win a 31-15 victory over the
Wolf pack.
During the early 1970s many
football coachin'i changes took
place. In 1969 Coach Stasavich
. stepped down to become the
schools full time athletic director.
Jenkins and ECU hired former
Duke All-Amencan Mike McGee
as the new head coach.
Jenkins also at this time
reworked the Pirates recruiting
system to include national recruit-
ment of athletes not just regional.
After one year McGee stepped
down to become head coach of
Duke University and Sonny
Randle was hired to bring the
Pirate backtothe respectability
they had enjoyed during the
Stasavich era.
In 1972 the Pirates won both
the Southern Conference basket-
oall title and the football title
If was during this time that
the famous Leo Jenkins Tee shirts
with messages on them began to
Jenkins who has never been
afraid to let the public know who
he is pulling for wore them at
various games including the 1973
Southern Conference title game
against Richmond, the 1975
victory over Virginia, the 1976
victory over NC State and the
Southern Conference Champion-
ship game against Appalachian
State on Thanksgiving night of
Jenkins always proved himself
to be the Pirates number one fan.
He enjoyed most of all the
oompany of the fans themselves
when he was at an athletic event.
He was welcomed to a rousing
chant of "Leo, Leo" during the
victory over Virginia. He loved
the fans and they loved him as
Jenkins' dedication to "big
time" athletics for ECU kept him
pushing for improvement in the
Pirate program.
In 1975 a new lighting system
was put into Ficklen Stadium to
replace the old system that was
part of the old stadium lighting.
In 1974 Pat Dye was named by
Jenkins as the new head football
coach to replace Sonny Randle
who left for Virginia.
In 1975 Jenkins saw the fruits
of his and other mens labors when
the Pirates defeated the UNC Tar
Heels 38-17. As a sad note to the
win the man who also along with
Jenkins was most responsible for
the win died the day before.
Clarence Stasavich never got to
'��'that victory, but hishard work
and dedication had paid him the
highesl honor.
In 1976 the Pirates were
nationally ranked for the Ural
lime since entering Division 1
fa tbeii competitia
I Set' PIRATI Sp '61
with former ECU football coach
Sonny Randle. Dr Jenkins and
former governor of NC. Terry
Sanford enoy an ECU football
game, from left to right Douglas
Jones. Clarence Stasavich. Mike
McGee and Dr. Jenkins at the
formal signing of Mike McGee as
the new ECU head football coach.
Sunday morning News Observer
tells of Pirate victory in the
Tangerine Bowl in 7965.
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Page 16 FOUNTAINHEAD 30 June 1978
TOP LEFT CUFF Moore, Leo Jenkins and
Clarence Stasavich with the Southern Conference
Commissioners' Cup. The cup is symbolic of the
best overall athletic program in the Conference. The
Pirates won the cup tour times after its creation in
J969 Or Jenkins holds a copy of the News and
Observer after the Pirates beat N C. State 23-14 in
1976. Jenkins is also wearing one of his famous
shirt Fichlen ctadium, a pet project of Jenkins will
become the states fourth largest stadium and have a
capacity of 35,000 by 'all
I Ficklen photo by John H. frogan)
P�� con. f�M fltafrti bom. .
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parkas, com boon work ctamaa,
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Pirates leave Southern
Continued from p. 15
It was also during 1976 that
the Pirates decided to withdraw
from the Southern Conference.
Jenkins outlined the reasons for
the move as being the fact that
the NCAA wanted to reclassify
Division 1 into two seperate
divisions If the Pirates remained
in the Southern then they would
be classified in the lower division
Also a factor in the classification
was the size ol Ficklen Stadium.
The Pirates n �edeiJ a larger
stadium to remain in the top
A committee set up by Jenkins
studied the matter and recom-
mended that the Pirates withdraw
from the Southern Conference
and seek funds to expand Ficklen
The 2.5 million dollars needed
for the stadium expansion was
raised within a year and the
stadium is now nearing its
When the Pirates left the
Southern Conference they parted
as winners. ECU won the football
title four times, the swimming title
ten times, the wrestling title four
times, the basketball title once,
the golf title twice, the track title
twice, and the baseball title five
During this time women's
athletics made ECU athletic his-
tory as well. In 1973 the ECU
women's basketball team went to
the AIAW national finals.
They also went to the region-
al in 1978 and placed second in
the state tournament.
Now we find ourselves up to
the present. The Pirates open
play this fall m the newly
expanded Ficklen Stadium. The
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Pirates Club membership and
budget are at an all time high.
The schedules in all sports have
been vastly improved since 1960
The man most responsible for
a of this growth, Leo Jenkins,
will scon leave ECU. But the push
nt, gave Pirate athletics will
remain a monument to his drive
and desire to give the students,
alumni and faculty of East
Molina wh3' they always wanted
from the rest of the state and the
' ion; respect.
Jenkins always emphasized
athletics as well as academics at
ECU even though some people
were critical of him for it. Still he
did not dream small dreams for
ECU and this now shows not only
on athletics but throughout the
campus he helped to build.
Probably the biggest reason
for Jenkins' push for the athletic
department was his philosophy
oonoerning athletics and academ-
ics. But the best way to end this
story of Pirate athletics in the
Jenkins era is to let Dr. Jenkins
tell hisown reasons for wanting to
be the best. to waht to be a
" want to plead guilty of
emphasizing athletics, not only at
East Carolina College, but wher-
ever my influenece may do some
good throughout our entire
Not only should all progress
be emphasized, but emphasis
should be put also on the the
desire for victory or success. It'is
completely within the great tradi-
tion for athletes to have a
burning desire to win. It would
approach the ludicrous for us to
advise our students majoring in
' usiness not str've for success
Carrying this malogy over into
ithietics, trie old adage that it
makes no difference whether you
win or lose but how you play
game becomes completely
"In our present social struct
ure the athlete has as much right
and is entitled to as much respect
the musician, I iat
debatei a anyone
fed with the college
Dt I
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formation Directors ol At
Chicago, lllin-

Fountainhead, June 30, 1978
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