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' las' ' UMrs ?rs. ,afrtv 3th scholarship M Air lore, hcr ?"Mines to r w"h benefit, 1 an(J medical ?.Wdigre? ol ul hi ol isl ad M ountamhead and the truth shall make you free' VOLUME IV, NUMBER 43GREENVILLE, N.C.TUESDAY, APRIL 3, 1y73 SGAPresidential candidates comment on campaign issues (Editors note The following excerpti wen transcribed from a taped preu conference conducted by Fountamhasdi news jtaff and attended by presidential candidates Bodenhemer. Saunderi and Twilley. Walter Estes was unable to attendl FOUNTAINHEAD: The first question we'd like to ask is directed to Frank. You plan to have a spirit committee - isn't there already such a committee on campus? SAUNDERS: Yes, but that committee is under the Student Union. I think East Carolina suffers from a great lack of esprit de corpsInterests are diversified here, and the present committee can't handle all it should. It's very evident that the esprit de corps here has been lower than it's ever been. I think we could come up with some concrete ideas on how to build thisback up. FOUNTAINHEAD: What about the teacher rating scale? According to your proposal, teachers would be rated according to the grades that they gave. Dont you feel this rating scale would locate the 'easy graders' more than it would actually grade the teacher9 SAUNDERS: The only way that you can rate a teacher without getting into personal opinion is this way, making it all black and white. Students might say, 'I had him beforehe's crummy, but this way it's all right there. FOUNTAINHEAD: Do you feel that the student should grade the teacher according to whether he likes him or according to academic standards? SAUNDERS: I think there should be a good mixture between both. With this type of rating scalewell, there are some who want a good grade; there are some who want to learn. This way it's given and open to the students' decision. CO ED DORM FOUNTAINHEAD: Bill, about the co-ed residence hallis there any strong possibility of that actually coming about? BODENHAMER: Yes, we have seven endorsements on that. We are not going to take applications for Garrett Hall (proposed co-ed dorm) until May 15. We have an endorsement from the Dean of Women, Dean of Men, SGA, WRC, Dean of Students, Vice-President of Business Affairs, and we're really pushing hard for it. I'm asking for it on an experimental basis of one year. If it's run correctly, and everything goes smoothly, we can continue it FOUNTAINHEAD: How is this dorm to be set up - will it be opposite sexes on every other floor, or every other room? BODENHAMER :Therewill be a partition right down the middle of the dorm. After visiting hours, a door between the sides will be closed. On the girls' side, after hours admission will be just as it is now in unlimited hours dormspolice will be there to open the door. The men's side will be open all night long. FOUNTAINHEAD: What do you feel the advantages would be in having such a dorm? BODENHAMER: There are many advantages-social aspects group activities-all surveys show there is an improvement in these co-ed dorms. Studying habits, appearance, loudness, all of this show improvement according to surveys I've encountered. I've studied 18 schools having this system. FOUNTAINHEAD: What about the student loan fund - has that been made much use of? BODENHAMER: Yes, it has. I think it should be increasedsince it's a regenerating fund, it's always there - but 1 do think that interest should be added, say after 30 days. Let me stop for a minute here and say something about the spirit committeethe Board of Trustees and the Board of Directors recently put the spirit committee under the Athletic Department. FOUNTAINHEAD: How is that going to affect it? BODENHAMER: Well, the Student Union and the Athletic Department were having too many conflictsnot quite conflicts, but the spirit committee was felt to operate much better under athletics. SAUNDERS: Let me add something. I probably used the wrong terminology when I spoke earlier about a spirit committee. It's not just athletic spirit I'm talking about - I'd say it was overall esprit de corps. I'd probably have to change that name later on STUDENT COUNCILMAN TWILLEY. In the past month or so, they've laxed requirements for students to register in Greenville. As a result, some off-campus students who have no definite plans to leave Greenville, and who feel Greenville is their home, will be registering. We will be pushing for this, and for a student concilman on City Council (A question arose among the candidates as to whether a student councilman had participated in City Council business in past years). TWILLEY: Now, if you'll look back on Boh Whitley's (SGA) administration, Randy Honnet sat on the City Council. We didnt have one under Rob Luisana's administration, but Honnet was there under Whitley's and I believe under Glen Croshaw's administration. SAUNDERS: They started something like this back in 1965Members sat in, but there hasn't been anything where they could actually speak out at the meeting. They could give City Council members ideas, but they have never been able to exercise anything but the same rights a Greenville citizen would have at the meeting. FOUNTAINHEAD: Do you disagree with that, Bill? BODENHAMER: I've spoken to Mrs. Mildred McCrath, a councilman, and she said that we have had members there in previous years, and that he does have the right to speak out TWILLEY: One thing I think you should remember - according to Robert's Rules of Order and parliamentary procedure, if you're not a member of a committee you have to be given the n ht to speak by a member. If there is one objection on that committee, that person cannot talk. As a member, he would have the right to the floor, the right to speakNow, one vote out of 11 might not seem like much - but the big thing is that it would be his floor and his right to speak. FOUNTAINHEAD: So you're pushing for the full status of a student on the City Council? TW1 LLEY: Thi person we have in mind is not a student now. If a person could be found who was maybe not a student, but sympathetic toward students and student government, and who could represent that to Greenville, we could establish this close contact with the people. FOUNTAINHEAD: Frank, do you have any comment on that? SAUNDERS: Well, I'll tell you one way you could get around that (having a student member) would be if you had a sympathetic faculty member - whether he were young or old. A faculty member involved with the activities of East Carolina could help fill the void. That would get around some of the problems of having a student member approved. He might be more conservative - but I think that he might be able to get his point across better to the council. They might be more apt to listen to him than to a student BODENHAMER: We have one on there now. WECU EXPANSION IFOUNTAINHEAD: Bill, about this WECU radio suggestion of yoursyou suggest ?that it go over the air. Right now it's a carrier, or cable, station - have you looked Onto the expense or the FCC angle of it? BODENHAMER: They'd have to go FMI think the main problem in cost is that they have very few ads Most of the advertising is concentrated in three or four department stores If they did go over the air, advertising would increase - it 'Would be self-suporting after about three years. FOI i I AINHEAD In that case, would you be looking into raising or spreading ?ut salaries? Right now, only the top ranking people over there are on salary. BODENHAMER I would still say the top members should be paid salary iAUNDERS: Now one thing you have to take into consideration is that, according to the FCC, disc jockeys have to have an FCC rating before they can go over ihe air I dont believe youYe going to find many ECU students who have a Biting they'd go downtown to work for a radio station instead. YouYe going to SGA CANDIDATES: THE WAY THINGS STAND PRESIDENT - Bill Bodenhamer Walter Estes Frank Saunders Robert Twilley VICE- PRESIDENT - Frieda Clark Bob McKeel SECRETARY - Sandra Langley TREASURER - Mike Edwards Kathy Holloman BILL BODENHAMER ? i I X. 4- WALTER ESTES FRANK SAUNDERS ROBERT TWILLEY I REFERENDUMS The student body will be asked to decide the following when they vote in Thursday's elections: 1. Do you favor the elimination of the 2.0 grade point average as a requirement to be a candidate for public office at East Carolina University?YesNo) 2. Do you favor an amendment to the Student Government constitution to do away with the popular election of Marshals and to be replaced with the applicants who have the highest grade point average above the required 3.0? (YesNo) 3. Whereas the name of 'The Rebel' no longer reflects the image the magazine portrays, the name should be changed to 'Morpheus (YesNo) I (Editor1! note): Due to extreme technical problem, four IBM composer broke down last night) we were forced to exclude the snorts and editorial pases from tin r with us. )ur equipment should be repaired by next nress time. lEd.tor s note ' Mowing are presidential ind,date Walter Este. comments regarding opinions expressed liy the remaining tine candidates! Many books go out of date in two years The professors ihould haw 11 alternative to change books whenever the) feel the material ii outdated I here's not much wnee in learning material from an outdated book Profeeaon don't chage books unless they have good reason to Requiring them to keep a certain book for two years could decrease their effectiveness in teaching a particular course. What's more important quality education or a few dollars in books The book co-op is a better solution. Fountainhead covers ECU news sufficiently. In my opinion, news of inter outside the ECU campus would make interesting reading EC! isn't some secluded island, students are interested in outside news as well as mini -campus news run into a lot of problems with rating and salaries - but there are a lot of problems we have on campus that are more important. I think it'i great to have Baal Carolina over the air but let's try to solve our internal problems first. I think that's pretty secondary to a lot of other problems. FOUNTAINHEAD. CHANGED' FOUNTAINHEAD: Bill, how do you feel about the status of Fountainhead? BODENHAMER. I feel that Bo Perkins is a pretty good editor I understand him more than I have those in the past. When I say the paper should concentrate on campus news. I mean student news, like the University of Michigan University of Floridaevery thing concerning students. This is the kind of paper I'd like to see FOUNTAINHEAD: Do you intend to exert pressure on Fountainhead or the new editor - what do you plan to do BODENHAMER As far as putting pressure. 1 think the students should be the ones to do that. I think Fountainhead has changed a lot - in the past, you'd sec one week of campus news and nothing the next week SAUNDERS: BUI, I'd like to ask you a question on that Some of the articles they print that aren't directly related to this campus - some of these articles have been good articles, like the ones on abortion. I think that's about ai East Carolina-oriented as you can get. The things Fountainhead prints don't pertain to students as East Carolina students only. I think it's good to bring in things like that from outside, which do have an effect on students here. FOUNTAINHEAD: About this proposal for a column in the Fountainhead. Bill ? how do you plan to do this? BODENHAMER: The SGA is allotted 150 free inches of space per quarter how much does that tome to? TWILLEY: About half a page, I think FOUNTAINHEAD: That would be between seven and eight columns BODENHAMER: When I talk about an SGA Column, I'm not speaking of The WRC meets tonight at 7:00 - I'm talking about what service sororities have done, what the WRC has done - their accomplishments, not just their meeting times. BOOKSTORE AND CO-OP FOUNTAINHEAD: All three of you say something about the book co-op BODENHAMER: I don't say anything. FOUNTAINHEAD: Two of you say something about the book co-op. then. How is the bookstore going to react to this? Do you think they're going to put any pressure on this? TWILLEY: No, I don't think so. Because there's been apathy among students regarding this, and because the co-op doesnt have what you might call "instant money 1 dont think they'll be in that much competition with the bookstore. However, if it were to hurt the bookstore in the future, you've got to set your priorities. Just think ? last year they used to pay their own taxes; this year, on top of what .they're usually making, they're charging four cents on the dollar extra. Thevr profits are so tremendous that I don't think the co-op expansion could hurt them SAUNDERS: The success of the co-op bookstore depends upon the participation of the students. I wouldn't say that the co-op could handle 10.000 students right now - the Vets Club had no permanent room aJJoted to the uo-op- If it grew to maybe two-thirds of the student body, it might exert pressure on the bookstore, but I doubt if this would happen in the next two or three years. The co-op is strictly a convenience for the students; it only sells books, not cards or fraternity decals or notebook paper, so it would be no competition is those areas. FOUNTAINHEAD. Bill, do you have something to say about that? BODENHAMER: I think the co-op is really good for about 300 people, beyond that, I can't see how it would work. If it got much larger, it would be too complex, with cards bang put in for salesThe thing I'd like to see is a requirement that all teachers in survey courses use the same textbook for two years. This could save students at least $25,000 per quarter. I've talked to Mr. Moore, and he is behind this. Now, the only people you'd have trouble with is the professors - they'll say 'You're taking away my academic freedom ' (Bodenhamer outlined proposals for a book rental system and for the two-year book use requirement in survey coursesi FOUNTAINHEAD: Not all students are taking survey courses - only freshmen and sophomores. BODENHAMER: In the upper-level courses you're into your major - you'll probably keep those books. But you dont want to keep a biology or music book if you're a business major. I'm not against the book co-op. but I don't feel it can work beyond 300-500 people. SAUNDERS: If we had advertising, we could boost that figure to 10,000, hire a staff and still come out ahead. And if the SGA allotted funds to tl e Vets Club for the specific use of the co-op, profits could go back into the SGA and you could reinvest student money. BODENHAMER: I'm not against the book co-op. But in the other plan, you can have a better system, not hire a new staff and make the bookstore more efficient at the same time. SAUNDERS: What I'm saying is that we can get the money to make the book co-op work for 10.000 students - in your system and in this system. TWILLEY: I've got a question about thishave you found out how often survey course texts are changed? BODENHAMER Teachers are changing survey texts about every quarter I was down in the bookstore about three days in a row finding out about this. TWILLEY: 1 can't see that. Biology's been using the same text for about three years now. history' books are going on ? second year BODENHAMER Editions have been changed TWILLEY: I don't see where editions have changed that often this is the second year for some ? SAUNDERS: I'd say 95cr of these survey teachers have kept the same book this year and last year BODENHAMER: Now, the problem in history, say, is that you've got six different teachers teaching survey, for example. These six different teachers have six different books - you could cut this down to one or two books for survey required in a department. If we went on this system, we could buy books cheaply from other places second-hand books. That's where these books you sell liack go they're sitting in these companies' warehouses. You could save the student a lot of money by buying up these used books and making use of them for more than one quarter. COLLEGE FOR EDUCATION' SAUNDERS The Board of Trustees charges each faculty member to give the best grade of education possible. If a book comes out and the teacher feels that it would help the student better grasp that knowledge, the Board charges the faculty member to get that book to help increase the students' knowledge Your system's good as far as saving money goes, but in doing this you may be cutting down on the amount of knowledge education a student may get 1 wont say you'd be cutting down greatly but you will cut down when every year there are new discoveries made in math, or biology, or chemistry Now, we can keep a chemistry book for 30 years and students will be getting an education in chemistry - but 1 feel that the quality of education would go down. Whether anyone wants to agree with it or not. college is for education. I think social life and education should be intermingled but when you come right down to the brass tacks of it. we're here to get an education. If we can get it by going to another book, we should do it. BODENHAMER I feel that people who are m chemistry or math or upper level courses should be allowed to change books every quarter if h y want I'm saying that when a teacher looks at a book to use, he should be sure it's good enough (Continued n page 41 t i up 3- Loggins and Messina enchant exuberant crowd husl ih in ' I Men kl W I I Review Bregante slinked up behind his drums to blend an aci ustomed rhyl iim of rip n out in. k I lii'ii smiling innils. ioggins introduced Jim Messina, the group's pn ? ? 111. ii no nonsense musii ian, Messina asked in bis sunn) California ?it if ihe i niwd wanted "to hear si?me eountrj musii " and kit kd .ifl with "Listen to t'ountrj s.Hi" and I Ii ilidaj I Ii 'ill. featuring l i larl h . in ne fiddle Jamming, which became thi evening's time for quiet sounds, was Loggin's waj in banter aboul the stage to .1 guitai dual with the Iran, smiling bassist, Larrj Suns And Jon Clarke was left with his silvei flute to Pied Pipei the 1 rowd awa) He did i 1 iggins, ?ho rips il oul 1 in stage be. .ins. ii you (.in gel into musii . you feel good prompts his voice high and low with Bregante beating oul Peace ol Mind" joined by Clarke's mam. flute and thi dynamii Messina on guitar I In wear) musicians launched into a cresendo of idyll Jamaica call"Vahevala immediate success ol musical roaring uhili the jam fealured each in a si 1I11