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MRC admi By GARY L. McCULLOUGH i Or i in?' l . ommcnd ? men visitors on Wednesday. I day, Saturday and Sunda) from 12 noon until one-hail hour before women's curfew was sem to the University's president. This recommendation would go into effect pending approval of Dr. Jenkins and the Bojrd of I"rustees and the establishment of some means of enforcement. i lie Men's Residence Council passed its wn visitation polk) Feb. 23. which would open men s dormitories to women visitors seven days a week from 12 noon until men's curfew. I his polk) is to go into effect ot; Tuesday. March . and j confrontation between the MRC and the administration seems inevitable. Extension of visitation hours until recent!) ha- not caused difficulty. V tsitation was fust established during Carousel weekend of last year, later expanded to he allowed on an) weekend the MRC requested Hours at this time were from ? p m. to 2 a.m Council's ei penal! fine Ai ii membci have a d should tx ?.i set foi students t. committee's The ud I MR ked that : ip a set ot MR Court - - - ,ommittet time its dei isioi W hen . deadlim 22. the Council urged ii patiently for the The MRC Executive Council worked during the summer to have visitation set up on Friday anil Saturdays M a permanent basis. During tali quarter of this year the Council made its seven day a week visitation proposal. In response to this proposal. Dr. Jenkins appointed an ad hoc committee to be ehaired by Dr. James H. Tucker, dean of student affairs. Other committee members were Deans James B. Mallory and Carolyn A. Fulghum. John R. Ball. Dr. Miriam B. Moore. Gary King. Dottie McGee. and Bob Whitley. It was with the creation of this committee that dissention from the Men's Residence Council and many male residents first arose The MRC had many complaints with the committee. While Council representatives were invited to speak at two meetings, they were not allowed to vote, and the MRC's only voice was Garj King, president of the Council. Many representatives did not feel that King was fulfilling his duties, for his policy from the beginning seemed one of compromise. The Council also felt that with the establishment of the ad hoc committee, its power to legislate rules and regulations tor the governance of the University men's residence halls was being questioned. Furthermore, since faculty members outnumbered students five to three, the MR( teared that its proposal would not be looked at objectively. Nevertheless, the Council sought to assist the committee in whatever ways possible. In response to a request for specific- penalties for visitation violations, the k commute was not as agreeable Despite Council requests that they not be senl questionnaires were sent to the parents ot dormitory students to ask their opinions on visitation, coed dormitories, ind self-limiting hours foi women Although the committee said thai the response to this questionnaire would influence its decision, the main reason given for the committee's rejection of the MRC proposal was that parental r? po had been negative Its second reaso-n was that mulct MR( supervision there had not been main write-ups b) Council members For violations Even so. the administration has been willing to make some compromise. extending visitation on weekends from 12 noon until curfew and allowing visitation on the Sunday of Carousel weekend. Now. however, the tune for compromise has come to an end. A confrontation on March 9 seems at this point impossible to avoid, unless )r. Jenkins agrees to the MRC's action. To do this would mean that Dr. Jenkins is disregarding the recommendation of his own committee and the opinions of so many parents who expressed their opposition to visitation. On the other hand, the administration has already begun to take action. One hall Procter who serves on the MRC and strongly endorsed the Council's proposal has already been asked to resign his position. The dissent which has been brewing for many months is rapidly reaching a climax. Unless a compromise is reached quickly students who follow the MRC's policy face being written-up. while the administration may be heir to ill-feelings and bad publicity. DEAN OF MEN JAMES MALLORY sits on the steps of Whichard and comtemplates the problems involved in visitation in the men's dorm.tor.es. He has offered a third alternative solution to the current entanglement: a four-day visitation plan. See related interview on this page. ountainhead and the truth shall make you free' Volume II Number Greenville. North Carotin; Monday, March 8, 1971 MRC president Bixon sets forth 'reasonable' visitation proposal By TIM BIXON (MRC President) The MRC is asking for visitation in the dormitories. Our proposal is not asking for anything unreasonable or more than other schools with visitation have. The MRC proposal is as follows: Subject to the following provisions and limitations, individual student rooms in men's undergraduate residence halls and houses may be used for informal social activities and study dates in which members of the opposite sex are entertained by residents. A. Open house activities may be held daily on those dates in which the University is officially in session. B All Open House must take place within the hours here prescribed. The following hours are subject to updating in accordance to keep pace with change in girls curfew hours for the school year 1970-71. Those hours are subject to review by the MRC visitation committee starting May 1. 1971. The hours for visitation are as follows: Sundays through Thursdays: 12 noon until 12:30 a.m. Fridays and Saturdays: 12 noon until 2:00 a.m. C. The MRC visitation committee has the authority to extend hours in case of special group activities in accordance with extended hours of womer's dorms. D. This agreement does not supercede other University repuirements concerning closing hours E. It shall be stated in the Key that East Carolina University has visitation and that it shall not be held responsible for any incidents by students. All violations will come under the jurisdiction of the MRC court. Rules ;nd Regulations A. Policies concerning visitation will be distributed through the appropriate hannels to all men on the hill B. The MRC shall designate two students to serve as officers responsible for the enforcement of the terms of the agreement in erb dorm. C. The hours between 12 noon and 6 p.m. shall not require supervision. That is. that the appointed officers shall on work during the hours of 6 p.m. un: I the end of visitation. D . it is the individual's responsibility to conduct himself in accordance with the Honor Code as stated in the Key. Penalties The following penalties are reserved to the MRC court for offenses against this agreement: 1. Fine It should first be decided if the fine would hurt the individual or the parents of said individual. If the fine would hurt the parents, then another method of penalt) shall be used. The fine is at the discretion of the court and has a maximum of S20. 2. Social Probation 3. Referral to higher court. Other schools in the state have what we are asking for. Robert W. Fisher, assistant Housing Director at North Carolina State University at Raleigh, said that "in effect. each individual residence hall may have an open house at any time between the hours of 12.00 noon and 2:00 a.m He also said, "in my opinion the policy has worked very well Frederick W. Schroeder. Jr Dean of Men at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill says that the policies used s0 tar are "in general good" but he admits that they havesome problems with the enforcement f the violations by the student officials. The Administration at Fast Carolina Universityseems to ignore views from the other Universities despite the fact that they write ind ask for their opinion. Fast ( arojYna University administrators do not waul to listen to anything that they do not fee with. This institution is backward in thinking and does not know how to catch up to the times. The MRC is giving the administration the means to catch up but we are ignored or overruled. This situation has to stop Support the MRC on March 9. Legislator calls students 'islands' urges support in protest By CINDY MAULTSBY (SGA Legislator) During a recent series of interviews, this legislator was appalled at the fear, lack of information, and passivity she found among the women dormitory students. Many did not know anything about the MRC and WRC plans for visitation. Whether this ignorance is labeled lack of communication or apathy is unimportant. What is important is that it does exist and must be bridged. Even more surprising than this lack of information were the expressions of fear about the administration's power to punish individuals that were prominent. However knowingly or unknowingly it was done, fear of the administration has been formulated on this campus Many students were afraid to sign a letter to the editor of the Founta.nhead which stated that the women dormitory students supported both the residence councils' programs concerning visitation IIk-v were atraid that the administration would cither expell them, or take away their scholarships for voicing their opinions seems strange that such complete brainwashing and autocracy could exist on a 20th century university campus. It is especially disconcerting that this is even evident in a student orientated and created organ such as the Fountainhead. Perhaps most shocking is the fact that it exists in the students' own column created for the express use of voicing their opinions. Many people have criticized ECU as being the largest high school in the state. Before taking the defensive, each student should look closely at his environment EC has been known to have the worst audiences, spectators, and team supporters in the state. It also has the most apathetic- student body. Not only does the average student not want to do anything, but he also does not even care to know anything. I hypothesize that the average ECU student is the closest living example of the immortal words, "No man is an island Here, each student is indeed an "island unto himself afraid to bridge the gap between the administration and the students. This can be seen no clearer in any area than lhat of visitation policies. I'm sure that I might have "stepped on many toes" by now. If I have, then at least I have accomplished part of my purpose to make more people raise their heads and see what is happening. Then, each student may finally realize that what is happening concerns his own rights and privileges as an individual. Therefore, every student needs to help collectively. Absolute individuality never won a battle; collective bargaining is much more effective. On March 9 the MRC plans to open the Men's dorms for daily visitation. The administration must think that the student of this University is either interested or a little bit concerned about visitation. They believe fornication and visitation go hand in hand. They fail to realize that the majority of the students here are politically classified as adults. It's about time that they were morally treated as adults. If any member is interested in helping the MRC in its fight against the administration, please either contact me or come to a meeting that will be held in the student union room 206 on Monday, March 8 at 7 p.m. Many important things will be happening. Any support that can help will be greatly appreciated. ECU BOARD OF TRUSTEES will meet on TuesrJayiErcH" Raleigh to consider the complete situation involving v.s'itation in the men , dormitor.es. ECU Pres.dent Leo Jenk.ns w.l. present propose" which was given to h.m recently after a study was made by the ad hoc committee. The MRC has offered an Iternat.ve ropSSffS dorms for seven day vis.tation starting on March 9 due to their rejection of the ad hoc committee's report. A confrontation hopefully will result in a solution to the problem. m M ' Jy me aa noc Wl" resut a solution to the problem Administration membe comment on visitation EDITOR Q NDTC Tu.? ?n? . . . llVtriff K riflt thl? CaillA ac 9tMrfim?n a?l J.? at CTMiinraRiiin. f ka i: EDITOR-S NOTE: The f0l.0w.n9 is an interview between Dean of Men James Mallory. Dean of Women Carolyn Fulghurn. and Fountainhead representative Jim Eichlina The interview took place March 2 in Dean Ma.lorys office. Also present were Assistant Dean of Men C C Rowe and Dean of Student Affa.rs. James Tucker Both of these men expressed concurrence with those sentiments expressed by Dean Mallory. Fountainhead: What isbeing done concerning visitation on IheJuE? Mallory: The Board erf Trustees will meet Tuesday. March 9 Jti Raleigh. At this time, a recommendation will be presented to them by Preside. Leo Jenkins who in turn was presentedthe recommendation by the ad hoc committee. Fountainhead: What was the ad hoc eommittee'vecommendation? MalloryThe committee recommended. in essence, thai visitation be allowed on Wednesday. Friday. Saturday, and Sunday. FOunta.nhead: If female students were tovisit on the hill Tuesday, would thev be lubjecl to punishment, such as liftinu their ID cards Mallory: Well, let's put it this way. The visitation rule for the isistation policy that ma) exist is still in effect and will be in effect until some action is taken bv the Board Fountainhead: Couldn't the MRC passage of this bill be termed a negation of the pre ious policy Mallory: The MRC has no right to supersede an) polk) All policies that change rules and regulations must be approved hy the administration It would lik? the s(, meeting tomorrow and deciding thai the) only wanted to go to i lass tour days a wi ek Fountainhead: Isn't it true that the constitution as stated in the Ke says that all regulations are subject to changes by the MRC and or the administration Mallory: That's right but they forgot to put in this year's (Key) one of the most important things. They forgot to put in "approved by the administration There is no such thing as autonomy, period. Dr. Jenkins as President of this institution approves all actions of all organizations and all committees. Fountainhead: Concerning the questionnaire, why was it sent out to the parents instead of students Mallory: Because- we feel as long as parents pay the bill they are entitled to have their policies known. The committee used these as a guideline. Fountainhead: Who appointed the ad hoc committee.1 Mallory: Dr. Jenkins. It was consisted of (acuity, administration and students. Fountainhead: Who were the students on the committee? Mallory: The president of the SGA the president of the MRC and the president of the WRC. Fountainhead: What authority do parents have? Does the administration go under the assumption that students do not pay school expenses and that someone else is footing the bill? Mallory: Even if the students were footing 100 per cent of the bill, your still have lines of delineation and demarcation and you still have to have reasonable rules and regulations. Fountainhead: Why is that0 Mallory: Because it's that way anywhere, it's that way in society. Do you think that when you leave ECU that you're going to go out and do what you want and not be bound by any rules and regulations? Fountainhead: Well, if 1 were renting an apartment I'd have the right to have whoever I want to visit me Isn't the University basically renting apartments on the hffl? Mallory: We're not renting apartments Courts have already ruled that dormitory ? ? ? .vv uy i nave, men at teas! Help will be greatly appreciated T' "n luning apanments mM k A U m Courts wikl Representative Luisana speaks out on visitation controversy emTOR-SniOTE:RobLu?H?.MncGo?Wno,ofTyiw liberal they were they added WednesdMvs rv i Dormitorv has h? . i.rf,? ?? u.l .?.? ' uuutu WianiSUays. Q It there r, no ? . EDITOR'S MOTE Rob L uwru. MRC Governor of Tyler Dormitory, has bean a leading force behind the MRC drive for seven day vieanation. Fountainhead contacted ??a" for hia views on the finer points of the controversy Our questions and hit answers follow. Q. Do you think the ad hoc committee was fairly composed A. No. out of the seven committee members there were four administration officials, plus Gary King and Dottie McGee representing the administration. The students were represented by Bob Whitley. who doesn't live in the dorm. Q. Were you surprised by the ad hoc committee decision A Yes. it was hard to believe that seven intelligent people could have reached the decision they made Q. What was this decision made by the- ad hoc committee? A. They decided it was all nght for the men to associate with the opposite sex on weekends and just to prove how really they were they added Wednesdays Q What do you think made the committee decide on Wednesdays? A The only explanation I've heard is that it's Prince Spagett. Day Q. What action has the MRC taken in response to the ad hoc committee decision? A. We did what we probably should have- done long ago. We passed a bill providing for visitation from I 2 noon til girls curfew seven days a week. 0 How do you think the administration will react to what th,e MRC has done' A. I have heard no official word yet Tim Bixon and myself are meeting with Dr. Jenkins on March 8 to discuss the situation Q. If Dr. Jenkins offers you a compromise solution on the 8th would you accept it? A. The only answer Dr. Jenkins can give- that is acceptable to myself is for him to accept the hours laid down by the MRC 0 II there are police waiting to arrest anyone who enters the dorms on the 9th with a girl are you willing to risk arrest? A Ye if it comes down to that Q. Do you think the MRC action will set a precedent for other branches of student government? A God I hope so. Q Is the WRC supporting you A. I'm sure Dean F ilghum will tell the WRC what they are supposed to think about the situation. So I doubt that we will receive much help from them. 0 Dean Mallory has said that there is no principle involved in this conflict. Has the MRC based its action on any principles? A. Well. 1 can think of at least three offhand 1 Is the University going to have complete control over the personal life of its students 2 Are student governments going to be treated as puppets by the administration or are they actually going to be allowed to govern? 3. Are we going to assume the role of human beings before or after our roles as students? Q. The SGA is supporting the action taken by the MRC. What type of support are they giving you? A. Just for them to endorse what we have done is a help. But Bob Whitley has tbld me the SGA would handle any legal expenses and would post bond for students who were arrested 0 A number of administration officials say that visitation is a privilege and not a right. A That could depend on your definition of privilege. If you're crazy enough to think that it's a privilege to talk to another person in the privacy of your own room then you're probably crazy enough to call it a privilege. 0- How heavily do you think the questionnaire which was sent to the parents of students influenced the committee's decision? A I was told by a number of people including Dean Fulghum that these questionnaires would not influence the decision of the ad hoc committee. But it appears that it was a major factor in their decision. Q. Briefly, how would you describe the current social situation at this university' A This country possesses the technology to place men on the moon. Here at ECU we haven't progressed far enough socially to land two people of the opposite sex in the same dorm Does that answer your question? living is not the same as apartment and due to the unique relationship between the University and the student that certain restrictions and certain openness exist. Fountainhead: Do you think that open visitation will lead to more promiscuity Mallory: I don't think the word moral ever came up as far as I know. Are there no morality Fountainhead: issues involved? Mallory: One of the big things that the committee noted, and we checked all the dormitories, was a total lack of facilities o really have adequate visitation. Fountainhead: What kind of facilities are you referring to. lavatories' Mallory: Facilities, period. You have two beds, two desks, two chairs, two closets, and that's it. And the rooms are small. Fountainhead: This question is probably of! the wall, but what does "ad hoc" mean' Mallory: Ad hoc is a committee with a special function. are members of the academic communitv and who have open visitation ? Mallory: You don't take the key from anybody. You try to do what you think is right, within reason. Fhe president said to set ,ip a workable plan. At first, the me i m the hill wanted on p.v.a' occasions, then on -Saiurda then veekends. and now seven ?ays a week, and probably soon. 24-h (ursa day. What would you Fountainhead personally want Mallory: My persona likes don't enter into it. I legislate on the basis of fact, not on the basis of like and dislike Fountainhead: It has been rumored that women's curfew w 11 be abolished soon Would that make 24-hour visitation possible? Mallory: Definitely not. There is no way, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm speaking personally, that I would ever vote or recommend 24-hour visitation. Chapel Hill. Duke and State have turned thumbs down on it. They operate in a framework. Fountainhead: In comparison, is ECU noted for its academic climat Mallory: I just wish someone, somewhere, would come across with some idea of how it could improve academic climate, not just here, but everywhere. It seems that the word academic, intellectual. etc. is being pushed off because I feel, and I'm sure you feel, that an educated man is a total man Fountainhead: That would appear to be an uiiumciu for open visitation Ujy should the school concern itset w-ith Mltn ? i IV la as isiLitiiMi ' Mallory: Making rule, should he a cooperative effort and this is the way we operate. There's not a single ruie in the Key that wasn't put there without students having the majontv so-say. DEAN OF STUDENT AFFAIRS JAMES TUCKER Fountainhead: One shot only, so to speak? Mallory: One shot only, exactly right. Once your recommendations are made, then an ad hoc committee is dissolved. 1 fed that after the board of trustees gets our recommendation and studies the whole picture that this whole thing will be resolved Fountainhead: What did you personally recommend to them Mallory: Four-da) visitation and definite changes in supervision. This, of course, wi be worked out between the MRC and the administration. Fountainhead: Some MRC members are bitter towards the WRC's apparent apathy. Has the WRC shyed away from this issue If so. why? Mallory: Because, the women don't want visitation Fulghum: They've got exactly what they want now so far as I know, because I've heard no complaints from the women students at all. They did ask for night visitation which they got. They got visitation from 12 p.m. to one hour before curfew. That's all they asked for. I think women are a little more concerned about their privacy than men. They're taking into consideration those students who are absolutely against it. Now, I'm sure that not 100 per cent of the women are satisfied because you're not going to get a plan where the women are 100 per cent satisfied Consensus of opinion from women students right now is that they're satisfied with it. Usually, when there's a rule as up m the air as this one. you'll get someone in to complain about it. I've heard not one complain. I asked women students in general as they came from classes what thev thought about it and they were satisfied with it Fountainhead: Ii has been said that the school is trying to legislate morality by outlawing persons of the opposite sev It has also been said that the administration is apparently encouraging homosexuality. What is your reaction to these claims' Mallory: Oh. Lordy, how ridn.ulous can you be. The idea ot encouraging homosexuality m a free and democratic society when kids are free to come and go as they please, is ridiculous. If we kept kids behind bars for 24 hours a day like they do in Central Prison. I might buv that. But these kids come and go as thev please They've got all the freedom in the world And that's the most ludicrous, absurd thing I ve ever heard of in mv life. You have to admit that. Fountainhead: How would you compare this to European universities? Mallory: Most universities look upon visitation as a privilege, not a right They hesitate to permit on a university campus that which is not condoned in society DEAN OF WOMEN CAROLYN FULGHUM visitation not Fountainhead: Is condoned in society? Mallory: In most schools and society in general. is not condoned for the boys to goto the girls'bedroom Fountainhead: Couldn't the key to visitation be taken from day students who Fountainhead: Isn't the Key invalid now because the administration only allows those- regulations they approve Mallory: The Key might be invalid just like this visitation policy might be invalid but. umiJ the Board ot Trustees appoints a new one, the visitation policies on Fridays and Saturdays will be in effect and it will be enforced. Fountainhead: Do you think the MR( has been lenient with the administration They granted the administration 30 days to make a decision at the end of which time the MRC could assume that the power had been delegated to them as specified in the Key Mallory: The MRC knows that they do not change an existing University policy without approval of the president andor the Board Fulghum: The MRC was merely told they would give President Jenkins their recommendations within 30 days, not that they would receive a decision from the Board Mallory: Dr Jenkins has all the power to rescind all the actions of the Student Government if he so desires. He. as president of this institution, has final authority over everything We have given him oar recommendation to be carried to the Board When he gets back, we will work within the framework of the decisions, let's give the Board a chance. I'll tell you one thing. The University will not sit idly by it a University policy is totally disregarded. You can rest assured of that. We use the parents as a flexible guide. because if we are bound to what the parents said, you wouldn't have any visitation. Over 70 per cent of the parents were against visitation in any form and most parents of girls over 21 were even more vehement than those of younger ones. After all. you do come to college to get an education and you do have to study, and it would have been awfully hard for nie when I was 18 or 19 to do some serious studying with a girl in my room all the time. Fountainhead: What if she's helping you study ? Mallory: I can see where that would be a i motivational device, but also, where it wouldn't be in the next six e.ses. It depends on the individual and the girl. If the students give the board a chance. I think that everything will come out fine. ountainhead !?, and the truth shall make you free' Students to provide guidance for administrators As students at ECU, we are indebted to this kind and loving administration for guiding us from the pathways of sin and corruption. It seems only fair, therefore, to show our gratification by imposing the same regulations upon the administration that it has imposed upon us, unless, like the father who having led his son away from the pit fulls into the hole himself, the administrators likewise are fooled by the follies of sin. The following rules, therefore, should be established as soon as possible. Women adminstrators are to be in their homes by closing hour, which will be 12:30 a.m. on weeknights and 2 a.m. on weekends. Women administrators wishing to go home to to other approved areas overnight must fill out an off-campus premit and receive permission from all women students no later than 10 a.m. on the day of leaving. Any woman administrator who has not been in a position of authority for at least five years will be considered a freshman. As such, she is subject to "Closed Office which means that she must be in her office every weeknight from 7 p.m until 10 p.m During this time she may receive no visitors, nor any local telephone calls. She may be allowed to go to the library, music hall, or gymnasium, or go with or without a date to special activities. All freshmen women administrators will not be allowed to venture out of her bedroom after closing hours except to use the lavatory. Any violations of these rules will result in severe punishment, including demerits, probation, restriction, and loss oi "brownie points All administrators who have not been in a position of authority for at least 15 years will be expected to live in dormitories. They are also expected to abide by all dormitory regulations. They may cook in their rooms, but they are Administration denies visitation is a right By PHILlP WILLIAMS (Staff w nter) The lines are clearly drawn now in the visitation dispute. There appear to be two opposing camps, both equally self-righteous, both equally sure of public support, both hopeful of victory. The Men's Residence Council's main contention is that visitation is a right, not a privilege. The administration takes an opposing stance. The MRC contends that because freshmen and sophomores are required to live in the dorm, and because they are paying rent comparable to that in normal privately owned rooming complexes, the men on the Hill hv.e certain inalienable rights, not to be abridged by academic and social standards imposed without consent. The administration answers these challenges by asserting. "You knew the rules when you came here. You didn't have to come to ECU This callous attitude is expressed almost unanimously by lower ranking administration officials, and those are the ones the students have to deal with daily. No matter what good intentions are proclaimed from higher up in the administration, they will not be reality for the students. It's very true that no one was forced to come to ECU. But that is a very poor rationale for avoiding social progress, and denying reasonable opportunity for change. Dormitories are symtomatic of an older idea of University education, one no longer creditable, that of total University regulation of student life. The vestigial remnants of this school of thought as applied to ECU is the heart of nearly all MRC-administration quarrels. The only lasting solution to these quarrels is direct negotiations between the administration and truly representative student leaders, of the students' choice. These bargaining sessions are essential to a speedy and just settlement. Student government must be guaranteed a place in university life. Student government is a cruel hoax so long as it exists "at the pleasure of the President of the University Dr. Jenkins, are you listening? All your chickens done come home to roost. Negotiations essential for just settlement By CECIL MYERS (VRC Representative) Recent events have caused an increasing lumber of ECU students to question whether this university exists for individual development through higher education or whether this university actually exists as a political stepping stone for its President, an excuse for the institutiona'ization of the moral dictates of some zealous but hypocritical old puritans and as a factory to mass produce a plastic product which should be labeled "a genuine reproduction of the ECTC graduate of 1939 These students see more and more that the very modern buildings, and the glorious plans for a med school, and all the printed propaganda hailing ECU progressiveness is simply a grand facade to cover up the inadequacies created by the Jenkins Plan to become a replica of UNC at Chapel Hill overnight. This recipe for instant university has left much to be desired. The students have been short changed because an important ingredient called "student freedom" has been left out and the ECU cake i, therefore rising "whopsided While frantic lobbying is going on before the N.C. General Assembly to give ECU greater status through more legislation the Qppoiai nroffft TTf? students, after being ignored by the administration, have sought the same legitimate means to attain a more natural and enlightened environment by passing visitation legislation comparable to that of Chapel Hill and the other schools that the administration is so anxious to cop However, the proof is in the tasting and when the students tried to cut themselves their slice of the cake it suddenly collapsed as if it had been inflated by hot air. The threats and intimidation that have ensued has revealed to many students the raw political ambitions of President Jenkins, the unhealthy and artificial attitude toward and obsessive emphasis on sex by the Dean of Men and Women, and the very evident put off (which was covered up by the rhetoric put-on) tactic of the Ad-Hoc Committee. However if these students have misinterpreted these recent events there will be no doubt left Tuesday when the doors will be opened on the hill for all students, regardless of sex. Dr. Jenkins and his subordinates in the administration will prove their true intentions when they bar the doors as they have threatened or realize intervisitation has been long overdue and back the MRC legislation. The season for strawberry statements is over. Confrontation now bad strategy ? By JAMES LEE (MRC Representative) Taking matters into one's own hands here at the University, or anywhere for that matter, should be used as a last resort only. The MRC on February 23. voted to open the men's dormitories to visitation on March 9. I voted against the proposal because I felt that most ot the members ol the council were reacting to the "ad hoc" committee's report and not to the reality of the situation that existed. The "ad hoc" committee's report is clearly an insult to students and their motives, but it is not the final decision of the administration There is a great deal of evidence that the faculty members who served on the committee were totally unfamiliar with dorm life and were also unwilling to accept the student members, who were familiar with the situation, as equals on the committee. This evidence should be presented to Dr Jenkins along with a request that the committee's report be rejected and that the MRC's plan, which is far more reasonable and has overwhelming student support, be submitted to the trustees. Even if Dr. Jenkins turns down the request, he will have been forced to make a choice and to take a stand on visitation. The MRC will be able to truthfully say then that there is no other recourse to win the students rights but to open the dorms on its own. The council cannot take this position now because the administration has not made a decision on visitation. The administration should also know what the students want and be able to make a decision on their proposals. The MRC does not seem to be greatly concerned with the fact that the only proposal before the administration is the "ad hoc" committee report and that the actions they are taking will make a fruitful meeting between their representatives and the administration almost impossible. I therefore could not and cannot support their actions fountainhead Robert R. Thonen Editor in-Chief Dave Ittermann Mjke Duncan Managing Editor Business Manager Bev Denny Associate Editor PTtytii Doufhartvn Edrtor Karan BlanafiatdFeatures Edrtor Don TrausnackSporn Editor Ira BakerAoViaar Pjbhjhed by students of East Carolina University, PO Box 2616. G-eenville. North Carolina 27834. Advertising open rate is $1 80 per cc.umn inch Classified $1 00 for first 25 words Telephone 758-6366 Subscription rate it $10 00 per year The opinions expressed by this newspaper -ily those of East Carolina University not to use units over 1,000 watts. Alcoholic comsumption in dormitories is forbidden and they are not to engage in any form of hazing or gambling. An atmosphere conducive to administrative paperwork is to be maintained at all times. Male administrators may receive women administrators as guests, but only during approved hours of visitation of Fridays and Saturdays: guests must be registered, room doors must remain open, hall proctors must be on duty, and room check must be held prior to visitation. Letters will be sent to the parents of the administrators, of course, to request their opinions, r We hope that no administrator will feel that his maturity is being questioned by our imposition of the above regulations. Quite to the contrary, these regulations should allow the administrator to be responsible for himself as long as he does what we tell him to do. and @ommenia4p Challenge To Fountainhead: Although people are probably getting tired of seeing David Edwards say this in the school paper or that about the SGA. some of its members and general apathy on campus, I find it once again necessary to wnte the Fountainhead to clear up or start a controversy. First, in relation to the letter submitted by Bill Shelton and friends. I have a comment. You are attacking the Fountainhead mainly for things I have said, not it. Secondly. 1 never say or rather never try to say something I cannot back up. 1 am not perfect and neither is the paper. But I do know the paper is honest and I can vouch for myself too. if it makes any difference. (No, I do not work for the rountamhead or an other publication) You .ilso vi "it's time we let our beleaguered SGA officials alone I might agree il you accept the assumption that they left the students alone not too tar after their election. You also ask for some articles on the policy of not allowing students to drop a course because of a bad" teacher? Gentlemen. 1 have already got a resolution introduced and passed in the SGA to do just that. Weren't you at that meeting? Concerning the Rebel and using the money for other constructive purposes (while the Rebel would be on a voluntary subscription basis). 1 introduced that about four months ago; it was tabled for two more months and then not allowed to be even debated on. Weren't you at those SGA meetings either? I do agree with you that these are more pressing issues to ECU students than changing what may be a very good SGA. But if you had ever gone to a SGA meeting, you would find out that pressing issues are not important, but rather relatively unimportant issues, such as whose turn it is to argue (not debate) or whose turn it is tc leave the meeting early. (An average of from 10 to 15 legislators leave the meetings early). Usually our most pressing issue in the SGA is whether we have a quorum or not. So before you begin to cut down the Fountainhead, remember it is one of the few things on this campus which serves the students' best interests. See you at the next SGA meeting. David Edwards SGA Legislator Finch-haters To Fountainhead: To all the Finch haters: I simply want to state that if anyone on this campus can draw up a better cartoon than Finch, then do it. To hell with your opinions, just do a better job. Chris Williams Battled To Fountainhead It's completely beyond my understanding why the administration presumes the right to regulate the private life of students. Visitation as all other affairs of the student should be decided by the representative bodies of the students, not by administrators and the communities. Walt Drake It's not Juiy To Fountainhead On the 4th day of July at 12 noon, the intensity of the sun's heat is a rather scorching situation One can wear a bathing suit and remain comfortably warm, and fourteen hours of tobacco barning leaves one with a somewhat fetid odor; then it is suggestible and we m.ty assume that a cool refreshing shower is indeed welcome Bui on the contrary, tins is not the 4th day of July and the sun isn't out at I I 30 p.m Furthermore, who bams tobacco m the winter Yes. this is winter, below freezing temperatures, heavy apparel, and just merely making an attempt to survive the weather Now that wa realize the season ot year this is. can we flow assume that "cold" showers are just too cool' Wednesday night. Feb. 10. 1971. Aycock dormitory suffered the loss of hot water It is now Thursday night and the hot water has not yet been restored. The dormitory students seemed to be in a state of mild panic Every resident has been KS Warning: This cartoon may bo objoctienablo to ?omo pooolo fiTGurS ' HERE'S A LITTLE HuM&ER, COOKEO up JUST Ffirt CV6 HI Eli Oti THE HILL. So IF LyAl' 1NTHEI 0L' JDOKtIS HAS S-OT YOU OOlVV J JUST SjrY& THS J0 rooKSElF AND QEUEVE HE Y6ULL FEEL BETTER 'MEANWHILE, BROTHETfSOP Tffe fyoil'N. - LCX: Ju&o; WMIfkrS MO LlfcrO VI k-HrXH A VA 0 V 'W' J m ,i 4Hr n n cj S2T- (JOT OEK OL' OORrA BlUB WAivJ GOT NO K-KC PO A 11 ? J7j ft Ottm' sim! (Tr4 END THIS FtfWTKATWN CxCTTA mm Mf(rrSTWl0N GVE OS 2H-H00R visitation JSr MlKlf THE STREETS-M0 HfiCE To GO, yfrLIKETA Gkb WE W,e CmlM, IT, IOOKN FO. HO OKIE PofTCHA fiNQty ZUT THE GUS VWt HAVE fttb GfiC, A flWrtT, MEl 2 & Hi5r TK ,0 X BET HIS mMtoX BE LESS StUSfWCHBL, IF THIS L60SY POfW W? CotDiKATIWAlI GOT pEr. QlljbRrA ftUFS rXi WiTWE ggWJjg ITWTVflN, 4g 0$ -ftBIT 0F CmjUZKOH i HATTft STOOl ALL NMT B?T 1 OUtT EVEtfhW ttoSE fly ipioT Romwate fs uwmis a Miq THE FORUM denied the right of at least one warm shower in the last 28 hours. As a result, many students have resided in filth and grime. . In essence, showers are cold in Aycock dormitory and its residents need and demand an immediate solution. Se-meone please turn on the hot water. Name Withheld Don't tread on us To Fountainhead: 1 back up the MRC concerning visitation. Constitutionally speaking we have the power to regulate visitation. If laws and regulations are not followed by the students, the administration does have the power to stop the students' illegal actions. But as it stands, the administration is in no legal position to slop our actions concerning visitation So face it administration, we have our rights, respect them don't treaif on our constitution, or we will treail on you. Chris Williams Time for action To Fountainhead: The MRC is doing the right thing toward visitation. The administration had their chance, now it is time for the MRC to take action. I think the men are in full support. Name Withheld Find out fads To Fountainhead: It is time that the students learn that "our beleaguered SGA officials" have been left alone for too long and this is proven in the SGA's continual sidestepping of controversial issues. A group of students in the last issue said that this newspaper slandered certain SGA officials. That is a pretty serious charge in itself. To slander someone you must first of all tell a lie about them. Go to a SGA meeting and you will see that truely nothing gets done. It is about time that people, like this newspaper and David Edwards, got on the SGA's back and tried to make them get something done. If someone isn't doing the job then get rid of them If this means printing the truth about them then do it. Its time this school got off its ass and started to take a step torward towards progress. Why must we follow the administration's policy of outright backwardness so as not to hurt the political aspirations of a certain president of this institution? I agree with the ideas about doing something about the administration's policy of not allowing students to change one of their exams if they have three on one day or the policy of not allowing a student to change a course because he has a bad teacher (yes administration, believe it or not. ECU has some tousj teachers). But ultimately all ol these things must be passed by the SGA in the form of a resolution to the administration telling them how we feel. Now any SGA that won't accept a petition signed by more than 15 per cent of the students calling for new elections is not likely going to represent the students and confront the administration with these issues It is really easier for them to just sit and do nothing which is just about all they gel done. I know people will disagree with me but instead of cussing me out, go and tell your S(,A representatives how you feel. The only way they will do then job is if we. the students, tell them how we feel and make sure thev do their job. I also urge all students to come out and vote when the elections ome up. Make sure you know who you are voting for Maybe next year we won't have the mess that we have this vear Sincerely, Jeff Schimberg Out of dimes To fountainhead I've practically given up trying to reach friends at Belle by phone. In one week I called first floor Belk ten tunes and was either greeted with obscene remarks or hung up on all ten times The eleventh tune, in desperation, f called the second flooi and finally found a kind soul to help y: out. 1 was beginning to wonder, since i n , coed, if was going to have to wait until visitation and go personally to find the guy I was trying to reach By then that would have been futile, since my intention in calling was to find a ride home for the weekend. A friend of mine is having the same- trouble with the guys on first floor Scott. She has called there four times with the same results I had at Relk. Maybe after she enriches the phone company with seven or eight more dimes she'll find one decent guy- A paradox: These guys who spout trash and hang up m us certainly must enjoy receiving their own phone calls. Don't they know there are other guys in the dorm? Maybe they'll change their ways when an emergency call doesn't reach them because one of the other inconsiderate clods forgot to grow up too. My apologies to the guys who have some- manners I wish more of you men would keep the clods away from the phones. Fed Up And Out Of Dimes Coed Memorial Fund To Fountainhead: The Physical Therapy Students would like to express their appreciation to all those who participated in and contributed to the bake sale for the Linda Faye Arrington Memorial Fund. A loan will be given to a Physical Therapy student each year in menory of Linda Arrington who was recently killed in an automobile accident. Linda was a student in the first class of Physical Therapy at East Carolina which began in the fall of 1970. June Gardner Proposal To Fountainhead: To every decision there is both rational and emotional aspects involved. Last spring, the Board of Trustees first realized the growing numbers of students moving out of the dormitories. Their response to this mass exodus was to force all sophomores to live in the dorms. This action proved to be more a financial defense mechanism, and not altogether rational. In the words of Lincoln. "Force is all-conquering, but its victories are short-lived Force tends to be emotional rather than rational, and it is this emotional gesture which necessitates sophomores to live in housing conditions which they find far from satisfactory. Force of anv, means evokes immediate retaliation. This is merely human nature. At this time we would like to offer this rational solution to the Board of Trustees. Rather than coercive action, we feel that dormitory conditions should be made such that persons would want to live in them: more specifically, turn the dorms into apartment complexes, where both visitation and all manners of conduct are self-regulating. Were this the course of action to be used, the dormitories would easily be filled. It is a well established fact that the cost of dormitory housing is far more economically feasible than off-campus living the point being that the administration could easily appease their financial difficulties, and at the same time. too. ease the financial difficulties of those persons otherwise living off-campus. The year 1970-71 has marked the first time in I ast Carolina history that the Men's Residence Council has proved a powerful organization capable of representing the men on the Hill. In years be for sophomores desiring change in the dorms found it easier to move out of the dormitories than to work for change within the existing system. This year, sophomores have no other alternative but to voice their opinions through the MRC Prool of this point lies m the fact that a large majority ol the MRC is composed of sophomores, and to put it mildly, they are dissatisfied. In short, we find that this is hard!) a tune for administrative emotionalizing. 1 he recent actions ot the MRC are the rational actions of the men on the Hill The men on the Hill desire change and we feel that the administration should acknowledge the desires of the majority. We find this to be both a rational and e cccd 11 nglv democratic solution. C Jack Girard MRC Representative True colors To Fountainhead: The actions taken by the MRC m their quest for visitation on the hill can be condoned. The wait for 30 days was wasted hut it was the honest hope by the MRC that the wait would be profitable. As to the actions for opening the dorms on the ninth of March, this action is commendable, pending on the forth coming decision by Dr. Jenkins. If the administration has shown its true colors it is time for the men on the hill to take a stand. For visitation is a right all dorm residents already have but the men are merely being stalled from having this right by pseudo-progressive antiquated moralists. David McGee Mike Moore Terry Bridges David Lacey Paul Gower Call for support To Fountainhead. At present the MRC is in the middle ot t conflict with the administration concerning visitation. The issue of visitation started approximate!) eighteen months ago. Through these months, the progress has been relatively slow and unsatisfying. This year the matter was turned over to the ad hoc committee appointed by President Jenkins. Although the committee h is reached a decision, it was entirely unacceptable to the MRC. On March 9. the MRC is opening the dormitories from 12 noon until curfew every day This plan has met some opposition by the administration and no doubt it will be opposed more heavily by the administration on the 9th of March. As President of the MRC, I ask your support of the activities of the MRC. Tim Bixon President of the MRC Not deadwood To Fountainhead: The recently-announced policy of no exai.i schedule changes for whatever reason must head the list of the "long train of abuses and usurpations" (T. Jefferson) of the rights of ECU's students by its administration. Several friends of mine have schedules which list three exams in one day. These students are upset, naturally, but have assumed an attitude of "so what can be done now?" and have resigned themselves to preparing for, and maybe surviving, the ordeal. My roommate, for example, has three tests in one day. two in five-hour classes and one in a four-hour course. She was told by a faculty member that the provost had informed him that the new policy was just like an academic- requirement, and that any student who could not meet it had "no business being here 1 wish to take issue with that statement. The exam schedules are not requirements, such as the exams themselves, but are set up to meet circumstantial necessities number of l lasses, rooms, etc. The schedule which a student received from the computer is often determined by chance and not by request. I (or you out there) might draw- three exams in one day next time. I have often spoken against the University's laxity in getting rid of the "deadwood" floating around campus, but I am not deadwood I am a sophomore and have been on the Dean's list ever since I came to FCU. Frankly, however. 1 would contemplate suicide it I were laced with siieh a prospect as main students are lacing now Do I. a straight A student, have anv business here Mr. Williams The S(, .i the Fountainhead .should attempt to bring about a reversal of this polic) which could be dangerous to the physical and emotional well-being of both the academically weak and strong. Students musi not be forced to jeopardize their health and stability merely to satisfy circumstances beyond then control Anna M. Highsmith Do own laundry To Fountainhead: I very morning as I drive past the laundrv and view its smokestack vomiting forth its thick black emesis I say to myself. "Damn that tiling If only I had a lid to seal the top " But then. I think the only wav to stop Greenville's largest polluter is to go to the source, to each contributor If you send your laundry to this facility, then you are a Mvy polluter, indirectly but nevertheless a polluter of the air we are breathing. I protest strongly that I have to breath this rr.ess from your dirtv laundry. You (dormitory students who use the facility) get clean laundry and we all get dirty lungs. Ironically dormitory students are forced to pay a laundry fee whether they use it or not. They pay with their lungs and their pocketbook. Why not protest payment of this fee and do your own laundry much more inexpensively and help clean our air? Artista J. Marohioni Petition To Fountainhead: As members of the WRC. we support the joint MRC visitation plan tor open dorms. Since the University expects Us students to accept political and economic responsibility as adults, it should also expect them to accept moral responsibilities as adults Last Carolina has finally reached university status in name. It remains to be seen how long it will take for it to reach university status in policy, action, and government. The MRC has taken a giant step forward and we. the undersigned, follow and support them. Cathy Kahn Cindy Maultsby Maureen Sedgley DyarG. Bready Fara Hassell Sarah E.Cecil Katrine Kelly Susan Liery Sharon L. 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