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Agustin Palacios 0:00
Hello, this is Augustine Palacios and

Joshua Corothers 0:02
Joshua Corothers.

Agustin Palacios 0:05
Mr. Jones. To start, could you tell us some stuff about yourself, your background and your role in the community?

Charles Jones 0:12
What are you talking about, I can hardly hear.

Agustin Palacios 0:14
Can you tell us some stuff about yourself like your role in the community and your background please,

Joshua Corothers 0:19
where you grew up? Where you grew up and such

Charles Jones 0:22
I grew up born Rocky Mount in 1932. We lived three miles out of [Inaudible] And they put me on at the drugstore. gauge their free model out of town. You have a way to go. But Bill Wagner got engaged today. In Maradona, we spoke we played three days. A month ain't going on Mo. in Concord, we go get her milk and put them all cows. I got a cow. Well, that'll we'll unmute cow put water down. Cool. Keep it cool. He drained out when no one heard that. She says what is your diet now? That I keep keep going back or getting a miracle and before 12 o'clock, they

made something so that's a better way of looking at it. I'm from big family. My dad were murdered first time. He has six children.

His last baby was 18 months old. So he married my mom and it's not a loose subset of Mexican family 16 Brothers Sisters and Brothers just leave a portfolio farmers or whatever I'll never make sense that way. I guess

Joshua Corothers 2:08
pretty much where you came from.

Charles Jones 2:09
That's where I came from. Man I am now 19 years old.

Agustin Palacios 2:17
So as you think back about your life and as you think back about your life and some of the life challenges

Charles Jones 2:25
we're seeing the Amazon J ROK coming on and want to let you know free to write no got it yet. People Leon might say put out a word you might live and play sale that way Well,

Agustin Palacios 2:40
you said that you were born in 1932 32 Has your family ever told you anything about the Great Depression and how it was living through that you have talked about I can't believe has your family ever told you about like how it was living in the Great Depression and everything

Charles Jones 2:55
pretty depressing yeah all that did journey depression that happens everyone Olek labs no matrix I remember when to put in for last we had a rock across like a 20 minute plank rock turn three to one light bulb in your rows north wall socket and one relevant each room with one wall socket in the kitchen and one light bulb in each room but wondering why the house can imagine that

Joshua Corothers 3:31
they live

Charles Jones 3:36
in three hours by using kerosene or lamp no for your ration no no

Joshua Corothers 3:47
so for I guess for you at that time because it was so poor already the Great Depression and independence didn't have that much already

Charles Jones 3:57
grew up they didn't worry about

Agustin Palacios 4:02
so growing up poor how was it that your family supported itself and pharma

Charles Jones 4:10
and chicken? Oh, wow. Fix them every time you go to cards candidate to have somebody one time it's just you may live in wiped off your rage on the farm. Which what you had layout? Crawford?

Joshua Corothers 4:33
Yes. So did you have any experience with medicine growing up or was it just sort of whatever you had and I guess we're waiting

Charles Jones 4:45
for a moral growth. Oh, yeah. Up most idea who made nobody, man? Oh, yeah. I'm not a year ago. But wouldn't beer in my life one pack of cigarettes? And the next one I was in Germany I paid two years at Dachau. We were ever burnt you that was absurd. So we're gonna ask questions. Are you sure about all that? Burn the juice and crematory crematorium are stationed there for two years therefore I'd come out of retirement some obviously didn't have I said he'd have been in rec room for a year brought people in there what were bad outcomes or we're gonna get a shower tear gas on the burner and killed it took them in urban environment for some months they did have it happen I've seen our whatever that so he if he picks pick me up don't read out what went on. Never better. We'll see. If service.

Agustin Palacios 6:04
So after coming back from service, how was your life?

Charles Jones 6:11
How alive I come back from service. It looks a lot better. I come back from service. And so it laughs I got married after that. To my house. I have four daughters. out of 1633 He only has $38 One cup one dog got two boys. I know we've got a boy and a girl. Family.

Joshua Corothers 6:57
So once you came back to the states, were you still working with the military? Or did you get a different job?

Charles Jones 7:03
I just got out from combat and went farming started farming again.

Agustin Palacios 7:09
And while you were growing up, did you have a education?

Charles Jones 7:15
Education? I kind of sixth grade education. That's how I got it.

Joshua Corothers 7:23
So what were some of the community members you think probably had the biggest impact at that time in your life like church members or to sort of your family, family, family.

Charles Jones 7:34
My family. My daddy all growing up wheeled wagons like never he lives he lives don't start with a farm. He would go to Raliegh on a wheeled wagon and get a load of fertilizer spend the night come back the next day or so you've ended up going through Raleigh on a wheeled wagon. Again unload the fertilizer and come back next day.

Joshua Corothers 8:04
That's a long ways

Charles Jones 8:09
[Inaudible]

Agustin Palacios 8:21
In what ways did your family support you throughout your life had anybody in what ways did your family support you throughout your life?

Charles Jones 8:28
Farming grown crops and rather than just making a living

Joshua Corothers 8:35
So I guess when you were born you had a lot of older siblings

Charles Jones 8:43
My brothers and sisters were older than I was, I'm the fourth fifth one in my family and there were 16 of us.

Joshua Corothers 9:00
Did y'all sort of help support each other I guess the older ones help care for this

Charles Jones 9:05
The older ones stayed at home till they got married they helped us made it good.

Joshua Corothers 9:11
Yeah I think with with my mom's family is almost like she had she had a stepmother and then a mother you know after the first mother passed sort of like that the older ones sort of helped care for them.

That's my that's my mom's dad.

Charles Jones 9:40
Your mamma's daddy? I remember him. So you so you came to [Inaudible]

Joshua Corothers 9:48
Yes

Charles Jones 9:48
I went to school with Harold.

Joshua Corothers 9:52
I know Harold, or I knew.

Harold I went to school with him at [Inaudible] School

Oh yeah yeah I'm talking about [Inaudible] school

Charles Jones 10:07
and when that school bus, when that young in got killed by a school bus, he had got out. It was coming down the road after the bridge and killed the young ins. They loaded him up and Rocky Mountain cars. [Inaudible] folks pulled up man pulled up [Inaudible].

Joshua Corothers 11:00
So you said that was a was that a school bus and I had an accident?

Charles Jones 11:04
Yeah. After. What road was dirt road road come on down to the bridge like that. He comes down to road to bridge the after school bus was coming down and he come up [Inaudible] school bus right on the side and still been down ahead of long seats in the middle of it killed six of them and back then there weren't no rescue and load them up in cars head to Rocky mountain to a doctor. But six of them died.

Joshua Corothers 11:51
so is that do you remember any of those people that are involved in that Oh

Charles Jones 11:58
yeah, yeah two girls, girl and brother was killed

Joshua Corothers 12:07
so how I that time How did the community I guess how did they sort of deal with that?

Charles Jones 12:14
Oh it was a lot. So everything everything was dirt road. All the roads around were dirt roads. They had grown up side and side road you come down the road but he got on a bridge come in. He come on the bridge, after he corned that school bus.

Joshua Corothers 12:36
I see what you're talking about.

Charles Jones 12:40
He [Inaudible] killed em. Six of them died.

Joshua Corothers 12:48
so when you were growing up what were your neighbors like how far away did they live or did he have or do you remember.

Charles Jones 12:56
I was about a quarter mile from my dad you could get together how to string ball made out of a back string. playball with him a little bit. Neighbors about half mile away.

Agustin Palacios 13:22
After coming back from service, did you face any challenges assimilating or just finding jobs?

Charles Jones 13:32
I came back to farming and I worked as a farmer a few years now work in the same house. I was at the same house for ten years. [Inaudible] that year. Come home come get home 12 o'clock at night get up barn barn about and go back to work three o'clock at two or three years. Had a hard go but I'm still here. One man in power older than me. He he turned 92 the fifth of December and he can't hear it coming

Joshua Corothers 14:34
So you might be doing a little better off i guess?

Charles Jones 14:37
He can't hear a thing. He's 92 years old. I'll be 91 in August.

Agustin Palacios 14:48
Being at that age. How do you feel that like generations have gone?

Charles Jones 14:56
Is it really gone [Inaudible] Nobody cares nothing about nobody might be upset but that's the way it is. You out on the road now you ain't a [Inaudible] run across the road, they'll run over you so that by the way I believe right there.

Joshua Corothers 15:18
So less of just sort of that general sort of caring and community sort of feeling for

Charles Jones 15:37
[Inaudible] crossing about I had to move on kind of the highway. I bought a lot. And he sold me a lot. Build a house and had houses all the way around behind me, there was nothing down there when I built my house. Then over on [Inaudible]. Now y'all y'all be a bad rap, you know they fix put 300 houses in the Middlesex?

Joshua Corothers 16:16
Yeah, I've heard a lot about different people moving in and a lot of homes.

Charles Jones 16:21
They are cleaning it up right now. But they are putting 300 houses in there. Y'all were raised here right? Because all of them are gonna be Yankees. I said that's 300 houses right out of town outside of Middlsex. You can count most of them are going to be from up north it can move out of New York and you can count that's six hundred cars, at least six hundred more cars are going to be put on the road and we already crowded now. And all the farmland around them is going into houses don't work and it's fresh and come again, somebody's gonna get hungry. You could count on okay, you can't depend on the other side of the world feed you. That's what its coming to.

Joshua Corothers 16:21
so I guess as you've sort of grown up and notice things changed. One thing you'll notice is that there's a lot of people moving in and taking up space for farming but you know

Charles Jones 17:28
All the land is going from farming. When I was growing up I used to have hogs all the time than I got I got I got another house my daughter Leslie, was the last day that he died. And I've got six acres of land but all the other land around that is going in houses. Just face to face. Anybody can get it. I don't know about putting it on those six acres. one house on my dad's his house. My daughter lives in that house now [Inaudible].

Joshua Corothers 18:17
which is fine. Thank you. Is there any other things you'd like to say before we close out the interview?

Charles Jones 18:23
If you want to know I'll tell you what I know. [Inaudible] back with kerosene oil lamp for that and wooo stove to heat and so you can get nowhere for that.

Agustin Palacios 18:44
For anybody that might be watching or us or my classmates. Do you have any like advice that you would like for us to remember for the rest of our lives?

Joshua Corothers 18:55
Would you have any advice for us to remember? Would you have any advice for us to remember for going forward?

Charles Jones 19:01
Yeah, just do the best we can all I can tell you guys, you can't make any trust no more. I'm gonna tell you that. Your family [Inaudible]. My dad road up on his wagon [Inaudible] but he farmed. You're part of Stones.

Joshua Corothers 19:34
Yes, sir.

Charles Jones 19:35
Which one is your daddy?

Joshua Corothers 19:37
well, it's from my mom's side. It's Jan Stone. So Jan, she's one of the younger ones. So you might not know her very well.

Charles Jones 19:44
You bet you remember Harold and Carol?

Joshua Corothers 19:48
I don't remember Carol, but I used to I remember visiting Harold, Harold.

Charles Jones 19:53
I went to school with him.

Joshua Corothers 19:57
And then my mom knows. So that's well again thanks for coming out.

Agustin Palacios 20:03
Thank you for coming.