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She ?aat Carolinian
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Serving the East Carolina campus community since 1925
Vol. 51 No. 26
Thursday, November 19, 1981
Greenville,N.C.
10 I'ayi'N
?They Stole His Legs'
Wheelchairs Taken
By PATRICK O'NKII I
Staff Wriirr
It's a type of crime that is
repulsive to people said detective
Gene McAbee, an investigator with
the ECU Security Department.
" T'hey didn't steal his property ?
the) stole his legs
Campus security has "very few
leads right now" concerning the
theft of two wheelchairs from the
shower room of Slay Dorm early
Friday morning. Both chairs were
later recovered, in badly damaged
condition, submerged in a creek
behind Dairy'Is Restaurant on 10th
Street. Both are now useless until
thej receive major repairs.
The two manual wheelchairs
belonging to ECU students Roy
Pate, a graduate student in
rehabilitation counseling and Rick
Burke, a senior in political science,
were worth $700 and S300 respec-
tively. Pate's model is a special
light-weight chair for eass lifting to
and from a car. "It's so my parents
can lift it more easily Pate said.
Both students use powered model
wheelchairs worth S3,500 for most
of their transportation, but often
they need the manual ones if the
others should break down.
"It's all I have to fall back on. I'd
have to sit in bed all the time if I
didn't have a chair noted Pate.
"You take away my wheels and you
take away my mode of transporta-
tion added Burke.
This the first time we ever had
anything like this happen com-
mented C.C. Rowe, ECU coor-
dinator of Handicapped Student
Services. "It's unbelievable that this
could happen he continued.
Rowe said he expressed his con-
cern about the incident to both Pate
and Burke and "we just feel the in-
cident is a one-time occurrance
"They were problably taken out
for a joyndeBurke added. "1
would hope that this is not a
malicious act directed at us because
we're handicapped, but there have
been some malicious things done to
another student who is blind
"I don't feel like this is aJ-
tnbutable to any negative attitudes
toward handicapped people noted
Rowe. "I reallv don't know the
reason and I don't want to give am
false impressions or images ? I just
don't appreciate it Pate added.
"I'm verv hurt that someone
would be so mean said Pate.
"That's my personal private proper-
ty. The expense is one thing, but the
inconvenience is an entirely dif-
ferent matter
Both Pate and Burke felt the ECU
police investigation was being
handled well. "Everything that can
be done is being done said Burke
"I hope that being the type of
crime that it is, we'll get more
cooperation than just an average
larceny case McAbee said. "Thev
(the wheelchairs) were checked for
fingerprints and we've gone room-
to-room in Slav and talked to as
many residents who were in.
Witnesses are always the best
evidence
McAbee said student reaction was
generally one of shock. "They all
seemed real cooperative he said,
and asked that if anyone "had ac-
knowledge at all or if they heard any
rumors to gr e us a call He also
mentioned that "of course their
names would be kept confidential if
they decided not to be involved in
the case
McAbee said the wheelchairs were
taken at some time betweeen 1:30
a.m. and 8 a.m. Friday. "A noise
was heard between 2 and 4a.m. by a
Slav student he said. "He checked
llurke let if. fate ami a damaged
wheelchair: "I hope mulling like
ihis will ever happen again. "
I'ln.i Hi i VK1! PATTI KS )N
in the hall and noticed the
wheelchairs had been disturbed, but
he didn't realize any were missing
said McAbee.
Pate and Burke both felt the
situation at ECU for handicapped
students was "improving all the
time
"I think it's getting better because
of the exposure handicapped people
are getting ? people are slowly
changing their attitides about people
with disabilities noted Pate. "I
think the majority don't let it bother
them Burke added. "I've met
some people who were very uncom-
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Qualifications Revealed By Committee
ECU News Bureau
Inc Chancelloi Selection Committee released 1 ues-
dav a 15-point listing of the criteria it wili apply in
creening applicants and choosing nominees to succeed
- chancellor Thomas B. Brewer.
(i. ' k: 20, lh Faculty Senate asked in a resolution
that evaluation criteria be made part of ihe job descrip-
tion. The committee also received other requests thai
the criteria it will use be made public.
Selection committee chairman Ashley B. f-utreli said
he wished "very strongly" for the publication of the
criteria because of thc public's tight to know The
listing was released bv executive secretary Di. Joseph
Boyette. It reads as follows:
?As the principal leader of East C arolina University . the
Chancellor must have absolute commitment to the ad-
vancement of the University to overall excellence in its
primary goals, objectives and programs within the
boundenes of sound fiscal administration.
?( t primary importance is the ability to represent effec-
tively the role of th University in the state educational
system, and to express the role to the various publics,
and ;hus attain their confidence and gain their moral,
political, and financial support.
?The challenges of the Chancellorship of last Carolina
University, as it moves forward to meet the needs of the
people, must be met by a person with superior intellec-
tual and social qualities and a demonstrated abihtv in
academic leadership, which will be reflected as lie she
provides the University with positive, dedicated and
continued guidance.
? Personal traits necessary to provide the basic skills in-
volved in good human relations include intelligence. in-
tegrity, friendliness, a sense of humor, maturity and
vigor, good health and capacity for hard work.
?He?she should also be cognizant of the important role
of the Chancellor's family, if there is one, in the com
munitv and bring to the Chancellorship a record ot
significant regional and community service at past
places of residence.
?Educational credentials should reflect a demonstrated
scholarly competence including the earned doctorate or
its equivalent, distinctive leadership achievements, and
a significant research record. Coupled with these should
be an awareness of national contemporary higher
educational issues and knowledge gained in teaching
during the last ten years. And, preferablv, experience in
a multicampus system within a state university system.
?The chancellor should bring to the University a reper-
toire ot leadership, administrative, ana management
skills. s a leader he she should be able to motivate
others to achieve higher levels of excellence bv
perpetuating academic freedom, practicing an open
door policy, and by stimulating research. He?she. m
turn, must be able to evaluate ideas and findings and to
develop them, it feasible, into programs.
?He?she must possess kis n involving colleagues in
cooperative efforts that will be helpful in maintaining a
rich and stimulating organization.
?He?she should have an awareness of and committ-
ment to, the personnel, and other, policies or
documents affecting the status of the faculty and the in-
stitution's governance. The Chancellor must accept,
and support, the role of the Faculty, and proper pro-
cedures dealing with recruitment, shared governance,
and curricular matters. Also, he or she must have ability
to mediate successfully among the disciplines.
?The Chancellor must be able to insure that the Univer-
sity has a competent and commited staff by providing a
talent foi successful recruitment, leadership, motiva-
tion, and reward. He?she should recognie the impor-
tance of the support staff in the daily operations of the
I 'nivct-itv.
?C ognizanl that the primary mission of the University is
the education and total development of its students, the
Chancellor must be receptive to each one's views, and
needs, and exhibit viable support of student lite in-
cluding a strong and responsible student government.
?Throughout II segments of the University the
Chancellor must demonstrate a sincere commitment to
affirmative action and equal opportunity programs.
?Having a unique role in intercollegiate athletics, the
Chancellor must have absolute dedication to supporting
an excellent program.
? The Chancellor must have a keen perception o the ad-
ministrative responsibilities ot a majoi state institution
and the need for extramural tunds. He?she should
have experience, aptitude, expertise, and interest in
developing adequate resources.
?As the chief advocate for the university and it- region,
the candidate must bring to the c hancellorship the
abilities to relate to the citizenry, to understand the wide
scope of roles and responsibilities of the I fniversity . and
to be responsive to them.
Notices ot the chancellorship vacancv have been
published in several higher education journals and
distributed through other channels. More than 30 ap-
plications have been received, some from as distant as
Puerto Rico, California, Oregon and Samoa
Singleton Heading For Florida
Sgt. Lynne Singleton is leaving East Carolina for Florida after more than
six years on the campus security force. Her "Crime Prevention and Rape
Awareness" program has been well-received by students, administration
and security alike.
On The Inside
He's an inventor, author, ar
chitect, poet, artist and engineer
He's been called the Leonardo da
Vinci of cur time. Meet
Buck minster Fuller on page 6 of to-
day's East Carolinian
J
Bv ALISON BARTEL
and MIKE DAMS
I ynne Singleton, on the Past
Carolina campus security force
since August 1975, is leaving ECU
to work with the city police force in
Largo, Fla.
Singleton began her career as an
ECU police officer. However,
reducing the campus crime rate
became her ultimate goal. She also
wanted to establish a means of com-
mnication between students, faculty
and staff members so that she would
be able to inform them how to pro-
tect themselves and their personal
property while living on campus.
In December 1979, Singleton was
promoted to sargeant. During the
same year, she designed and created
a program entitled "Crime Preven-
tion and Rape Awareness Accor-
ding to Singleton, "the programs
that I have presented to the dorms
have been successful in student an-
ticipation, and have received
positive comments from students
and resident administrators
Some of the pointers she gave her
audiences are keeping doors locked
when not in the dorm room, not
stashing keys above the door, not
keeping large amounts of money in
the room, placing valuables out of
sight, walking with a group when
leaving late at night, and looking to
see no one is in the back seat when
entering your car late at night.
The "Crime Prevention and Rape
Awareness" program has been well-
received by the students in the
women's residence halls. The ECU
police department has recieved
many oral comments and written
letters fron the students in apprecia-
tion for her concern. Her program
has also received local and statewide
attention from many of the related
agencies.
On Nov. 22 Singleton will be on
her way to Largo. "I am going to
miss eastern North Carolina and
East Carolina University she said.
"1 have made many friends with
students, faculty and staff and have
had a lot of support from the stu-
dent body while I've been here
Singleton said even though she is
leaving she is lookng forward to the
job change and expanding her
career goals.
Lynne Singleton's list of
achievements is quite impressive.
Among the highlights of that list are
being a member of N.C. Law En-
forcement Women's Association,
I aw Enforcement Officer's
Association, and Woman of the
Year Award for two consecutive
years at ECU ? 1979 and 1980. She
has also received the first place safe-
ty award presented by the N.C.
Rural Safety Council in Raleigh.
She has been featured in Campus
Law Enforcement Journal in the
National Association oj College and
University Directors of Security. In
1979, Singleton was nationally
honored as the Outstanding Young
Woman of America and has been
the advisor of the Gamma Sigma
Sigma service sorority at ECU.
Singleton has built a rapport with
the students that has been of sup-
port and friendship. She said she
feels she has helped them and they
have helped her grow and learn in
being an efficient and trustworthy
police officer.
Chief Francis Eddings of the
ECU campus security department
said that everyone will miss her, her
work and above all else her con-
tributions to this school.Eddings
also said that Singleton's relation-
ship and contact with the students
has made a good relationship bet-
ween the university police and the
students. Eddings is hopeful to con-
tinue the Crime Prevention and
Rape Awareness Program.
Ann Marie Doughery ot the Gam-
ma Sigma Sigma sorontv said that
'l ynne has reallv helped in the one
and a half vears that she has been
here, and she has always helped
when it was needed. She always kept
us on the right track. We all will
urns her on both a personal and pro-
tessional level
Larcenies Reported
By GREG RIDEOl'T
Matt Wntrf
This police blotter for the week of
Nov. 10 to 16 consists mainly of
larcenies and vandalism. The in
cidents listed below are of dorm
reports and related incidents.
Nov. 10. 8:45 a.m. - Dr. Ruth
Katz, assistant director of Joyner
Library, reported the theft of a
cataloguing index from a desk in the
library. 1 p.m. - Thomas Dean
reported the larceny and vandalism
of fire alarm equipment belonging
to Big John's Electric Company.
8:45 p.m. - Felicia Grace Warren of
306 Tyler reported the larceny of her
Muramatsu flute from a locker in
A.J. Fletcher Music Building. 9:15
p.m. - Diane Baldwin repored being
the victim of a larceny of two hub-
caps from her vehicle parked at the
allied Health Building.
Nov. 11. 5:30 p.m. - Cynthia F.
Miller of 236 Fleming reported the
larceny of her pocket book from the
music library. 10 p.m. - Willie Lee
Morris III was arrested for the alleg-
ed felonious larceny of a flute
belonging to Felicia Warren.
.Vov. 12. 12:35 a.m. - Christopher
L. Alford and John C. Nicks, both
of 415 Jones, reported that their
room had been vandalized. 1:30
a.m. - Rickv Howard Martindavle
of 319 East Fourth St. Siler City,
was arrested for the alleged break-
ing and entering of a motor vehicle
owned by Stuart Rigsbee of room
351 Umstead. 9:40 a.m. ? Nancv
M. Barrow reported the larceny of
her gasoline tan cap south of the
Tenth Street day student parking
lot. 4:10 p.m. Keith Grosfuss of 134
Aycock reported the theft of a
typewriter and one dollar in cash
from his room.
Nov. 13. 4 p.m. - Roy C. Pate of
140 Slay Dorm and Charles D.
Burke of 145 Slay Dorm were both
victims of the larceny of their
wheelchairs and the damage of the
same. 4:10 p.m. - William Kirby of
135 Jarvis reported the vandalism of
vending machine in the canteen of
Jarvis.
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THE EAST CAROLINIAN
NOVEMBER 19, 1981
Announcements
ANNOUNCEMENTS
l vckj or your organization
would like to have an item printed
m the announcements olumn
please iend the announcement (as
brief as possible) typed and
double spaced to The East Caron
nian in care ot the news editor
There is no charge tor jn
nouncements. but space is often
limited
The deadline for announcement
are 5pm Fndav for the Tuesday
paper and 5pm Tuesday tor the
Thursday paper
lhe space is available to all
campus organizations and depart
merits
THANK YOU
I would like to thank all those
who supported me m making me
,ou' i?8i Homecominfl Queen
Kimberety L Cloud
MEN WANTED!
The ECU Men's Glee Club is cur
rently recruiting men for the Spr
? ng Semester The Glee Club will
be touring North Carolina in
January with a number of other
appearances scheduled
throughout the semester it you
would like to iom this fine chorus,
or only wish to inquire about
future membership please contact
Ed Glenn. Director at the School of
Music 757 6331 or at 752 6195 The
Men's Glee Club is open to all men
iampuswide and otters one hour
credit per semester The Glee
Club rehearses at 12 00 M W V
Anyone interested m Ominq the
Glee Club next semester should
contact Mr Glenn as soon as
possible m order to be eligible tor
tne Spring Tour
LIBRARYTRUSTEES
The next regularly scheduled
meeting of the Shepparn
Memorial Library Board of
Trustees will be held at 8 p m
Thursday. Nov 19. in the Con
terence Room of the Mam
Library
HUNGER FAST
On Thursday. Nov 19 the ECU
Hunger Coalition will be sponsor
mg the annual OXFAM
AMERICA Fast For A World
Harvest " On Thursday we will
ask people to go without food for
the day and skip a meal or two
The money that they would have
spent on food can then be donated
to OXFAM S Self Help" Projects
in poor countries
Would you like to help out? It so
please sign up to "FAST" today.
Wednesday or Thursday at our
table m the Student Supply Store
or during the evenings at our booth
? n Mendenhall For further mfor
mation call 752 4216 or attend our
ThursO evening meetings from
7 30 8 30 at 953 E 10th St (The
Newman House) Thank you
SANTACLAUS
It anyone is interested m helping
with Operation Santa Claus
which is sponsored by the Pitt
County Mental Health Associa
tion please call 752 7448 or
7522 8760' Thank you!
SIGMA TAU DELTA
Sigma Tau Vita National
English Honor Sooe'r w II meel al
7 30 p m in the Mendenhall Cof
teeheuse on Thursday. Nov 19
There will be an election of the
society's 1982 officers. a"0 an
Honors Seminar discussion on
humji sexuality led by D' W'
Farr and Or Norman Rosenfelct
Refreshments will be served
KYF
The King s Youth Fellowship
will hold a meeting on Nov 19 in
Room 248 m the MenoenhaH Stu
dent Center from 8 10 p m The
topics of our discussion will in
S lude the i ommg of our Lord Jesus
Christ Everyone is invited and
.merits will be served a' the
end Of the mee'inq
PROSE CONTEST
The Rebel Jeffrey s Wine and
Beer Co and The Attic are spon
soring a Prose Contest Fiction.
Drama Mystery Typed entries
may be submitted to the Media
Boatd or Rebel offices by Nov 30
Cash prizes of 125 $75 J25 and
$10 First, second third and two
honorarians respectively w.ll be
awarded before Christmas
ECGC BAKE OFF
Yes we're eating again' This
lime it's a full course meal! In
keeping with the festive holiday.
ECGC will be having their annual
Thanksgiving dinner Turkey will
be provided yet a $1 donation is re
quested To make the meal com
plete bring your favorite side dish
Along with the social theme of the
evening, an informal discussion
concerning the election of officers
will be held So Come out and en
loy good company and a tine
meal. Nov 24. 7 30 p m at the
Newman Center
ASIAN AFRICAN
AREA STUDIES
Two lectures to be given by
distinguished prolessors from the
University of Zimbabwe.
Salisbury, Zimbabwe on Friday.
November 20. 1981 In Brewstr
BD 105. from 9 10 a m Or Mar
shall W Murphree will disi uss
Contemporary Socio-political
Realities in Zimbabwe" There
will be a coffee break from 10 II
a m m Brewster BB 103 Dr Bet
ty Jo Dorsey Murphree will speak
on "Educational Development in
Zimbabwe Past and Present"
from II 12 Noon in B't-wster BD
109
Interested faculty and students
are encouraged to attend these
lectures which provide a unique
opportunity to get a first hand ac
count of the events and
developments mthe southern
African region
Each lecture will be followed by
questions from the floor
POETRY CONTEST
The REBEL is conducting a
poetry contest It .s open to all cur
rent ECU students First prize is
$80 Second prize is $50 There are
two honorable mentions of $10
Prize money is provided by the At
tic and Jeffrie's Beer and Wine Co
Students who wish lo enter should
submit three to five typed poems
to the REBEL or Media Board of
fices m the publication building
Contestants should include i i icei
Sheet with their name address no
phone number the deadline IS
November 30 Winners a
published in the Rt BE i Al I en
tries will be considered lot
publication in The RE BEL All sub
missions are protd led by U S
copyright laws and will i
published without the authors
consent For more information
call the REBEL off ici a 757 6502
or Richard Gordon Poetry Editor
at 752 5830
MODEL UN
There will bt ? ? 4 Of the
Model United Nations Club on
Thursday at 4 p m on November
19, in BC 105 Everybody is
welcome to att. nd
ISA APPRECIATION
The Interna
v. ciat ??- lit
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SEMINAR
The Department of Chemistry of
East Carolina University will pre
sent Some New Supported Metal
Catalyst For Synthesis Gas Con
version Characterization and
Evaluation by Dr Gordon A
MelSOn Pf ?!? s r of Chemistry.
Virginia Commonwealth Universi
ty on Friday Nov 20, at 2 p m .
Room 201. Flanagan Building
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SLC
The ECU Sign Language Club
will hold its regular bimonthly
covered dish supper and meeting
on Sunday. Nov 22 at the
Mendenhall Student Center Mult'
Purpose Room The supper will
begin at 6 00 p m with a short
busmes meeting and caphoned
lilm lo follow
The meal and meeting are open
to any interested student, faculty
member, or a member of the com
munity You do no! need to know
Sign Language to attend, but
students who re taking sign
language classes o who hve taken
them m the past are enrouraged to
attend The purpose of the SLC is
to allow sign language students
and hearing impaired students
and community members to
socialize and develop communica
tion skills
We hope to see you there
INTERVARSITY
intervarsity will not meet (his
Wednesday night but mmbers are
reminded of the pot luck
Thanksgiving dinner this Satur
day Nov 21 in Mendenhall room
221 Be there at 6 p m with your
covered dish, a tr.end or two. and
your favorite cndle to help light
your table
NEW YORK TRIP
ATTENTION' Anyone want 10
go to New York over Thanksgiv
mg' it's Student union spon
sored trip with beaucoup Sight
seeing, p artying, and cheap motel
and transportation fees I'm ail
lined up to go but have had a sod
den change in plans and need
somene to fill my place' Tl
.s $90. but willing to sett ?
For more informal " ?
752 3546 anytime
P.E MAJORS
All students who plan to declare
phys.c al edui afton as a n-aior dur
mg the spring semester or
tend to student teach during the
spring semester ?houid report to
Mmges Coliseum at 10 a m on
Wednesday Der 9 for a motor ana
physical fitness test Satisfa 'or,
performance on this test is re
quired as a prerequisite tor of
fical admittance to the phys.cai
education maior program More
detailed information covering the
test is available by railing
7 57 6442
SIGMA THETA TAU
November 19 I 9 K p m in
Casablanra Res'auro program
' Bridy i g " ? Oap to (
os' is $4 00 nc Igdes
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Things haven't been going well
this fall for CARP (Collegiate
Association for the Research of
Principles), the Rev. Sun Myung
Moon's main campus-organizing
group.
For example, the University of
New Hampshire has denied a CARP
chapter official recognition as a stu-
dent group after a year-long court
battle.
At Auburn University, a newly-
organized CARP group is reported-
ly eliciting little support from
students. Yale University's long-
established CARP organization ap-
pears to have vanished from cam-
pus .
A principal CARP national direc-
tor insists that the movement is in
better shape than ever, however. It
is just redistributing its geographical
empasis, he says.
"They don't really understand
what we're trying to do says
Cathy Aman, president of the New
Hampshire CARP, which for the se-
cond time in a year was denied
status as an official campus
organization by the school's ad-
ministration.
"Our studies and eyewitness
reports clearly indicated that CARP
is the recruitment and fund-raising
arm of (Moon's) Unification
Church, as opposed to a conven-
tional student group says student
affairs vice-president Gregg San-
born. "This violates the university
to reconsider.
It did it with a series of hearings,
which included testimony by former
Moonie members about church
"brainwashing A student-faculty
committee then recommended that
the school reject CARP once again.
In October the administration com-
plied, saying CARP's "Mind con-
trol" procedures "resulted in in-
dividuals being unable to make their
own decisions, and an inability to
relate to others who are not
members of the church
"We're not trying to brainwash
anybody Aman protests. "We
simply want the right to hold
meetings and start projects, just like
anvone else
Conceding that CARP members
tend to veer from mainstream socie-
ty, Aman explains, "People in our
group have a very strong commit-
ment to our ideals. As a result,
many do make changes in their ac-
tivities and acquaintances, but it's
voluntary change
"Even students who don't
necessarily believe in our principles
believe we have the constitutional
right to be here she insists.
Sanborn counters that denying
recognition does not violate the
First Amendment. "Our policies do
allow for free assembly and speech
for all students he asserts. The re-
jection denies CARP access to
school rooms and the right to adver-
tise on school grounds, the vice
president says.
CARP has asked the New Hamp-
shire District Court to permanently
prevent the university from interfer-
ing with its campus activities. It is
not known when a ruling will be
issued.
At Auburn University, a new
CARP group has encountered no
official opposition, yet is not
meeting with an enthusiastic student
reaction, says Matt Lamere, assis-
tant news editor of the school's stu-
dent newspaper, The Plainsman.
The paper recently started a ma-
jor controversy by refusing to run a
CARP advertisement. But student
resentment over the Plainsman's re-
jection doesn't seem to be carrying
over to CARP support, Lamere
observes.
"There are only four (CARP
members) on campus, and they
don't seem to be catching on very
quick says Lamere. "I haven't
seen much positive reaction. 1 doubt
something like that could catch on
here
The situation is stranger at Yale,
where the local CARP members ap-
pear to have abruptly packed their
bags and left.
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NOVI-MBI K 19. 11
l.S. Student Association Narrows Focus
B College Press Service
l'he L S. Student Association,
the Washington-based coalition of
student body presidents that lobbies
fen student interests in the capitol, is
in trouble. To get out. it has
'?cleaned house" at its head-
quarters, taken a narrower focus on
education issues at the expense ol
social questions like abortion and
welfare, and begun to cultivate the
support of smaller, state-level col-
lege lobbying groups.
While USSA began working
closely with the state student
associations (SSAs) several years
ago, the housecleaning and newly-
narrow focus are the work of new
USSA President Janice Fine.
Her effort to pull USSA away
from social and political issues not
stnctlv confined to campuses echoes
conservative critics of the group,
which once billed itself as the voice
of the student movement.
Conservatives unhappy over the
group's treatments of foreign
pohev, race relations, women's
rights and other "non-education"
causes have broken with the
organization repeatedly over the
years.
Conceding the USSA's membership
has "decreased noticeably during
the past year, "Fine thinks the
Reagan budget cuts require that
USSA pull back from the "social
issues" to survive.
"If we're not going to focus,
we're going to get blown away she
predicts.
"In the past USSA has been
unrealistic in terms of the political
breadth of its platform Fine ex-
plains. "We must narrow our focus.
We're not strong enough alone to
win issues like increased financial
aid and holding tuition on the state
level
Fine, who came to power at USSA's
convention in August, will save its
spare resources for education battles
in Washington, and hope to gain
strength through the stronger state-
level organizations.
Consequently, the group under Many observers believe the state
groups may represent the future for
pursuing student political issues, as
opposed to huge monolithic na-
tional groups like USSA.
Fine agrees that "the most
financially-stable groups m the stu-
dent movement now are the state
student associations
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Disable, Not Unable
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Page 1
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Pate felt ii was necessary i1 put
dicaps iii pelspective. " 1 here
are people walking around who are
nisi as handicapped b theii ai-
ides as we are b oui wheelchairs.
Some people feel that jusi because
we can't use oui amis and legs in a
conventional inannei thai we can't
,t ei ei ? thai we're
d of i houghts and feelings
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and think, 'whai can he possibly
ai can he contribute?'
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is !he ph sical condi
lion. Disability does not mean
unable. We don't want any pit)
from anyone
"An attitude of prejudice or pn
realh keeps people from opening up
io new ideas, new things, new ex-
periences Burke said. "There are
still a lol ol these attitude barriers
he added. Roue feels the process
of intergrating handicapped
students with the full student bodj
has gone well at ECl "1 he rela-
tionships between handicapped
students and non-handicapped
students have always been ver
good he noted-
"We have a family atmosphere
here (in Slay Dorm) thai you won't
find in any ol the othei dorms
said Pate, "b really is conducive io
acceptance
"1 hope thai nothing like this will
Continued From
Page 1
Nov. 14. 1:59 a.m. -
Resident Advisor Ken-
ny Hardison at 328 Slay
reported that the
dumpster south of the
dormitory was on fire.
4:30 p.m. - Alison
Haynes reported the
larceny of her bike
while it was parked
west of the student
Health Center.
Nov. 15. 4:30 a.m. -
Daniel Paul Jenkins of
377 Jones was arrested
for allegedly driving
under the influence,
alleged failure to stop
for a blue light and
siren, and allegedly
assaulting a woman.
8:15 a.m. - Patrick M.
Nelson reported the
vandalism of a state-
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was parked south of the
14th street steam plant.
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Atkins of 218 Umstead
reported the vandalism
of her father's 19"
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Williams of 406 Scott
reported that his vehi-
cle had been vandaliz-
ed.
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Fletcher was cited in
violation of the visita-
tion policy for allegedly
letting a man into the
lobby. 5:00 p.m. - Ed-
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203-C Scott reported
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vandaliation of his
door. 7:40 p.m. - Leslie
Glenn Mobley of 146
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November 19. 1981
Opinion
Page 4
Free Speech
Constitution Provides Protection
Free speech is a basic tenant of
the American way of life. Or is it?
It was, of course, set forth in the
First Amendment of the United
States Constitution and has been
repeatedly upheld by the Supreme
Court.
So, that we should have to print
an editorial defending free speech
seems strange to us, but a recent let-
ter in the Campus Forum ? along
with the resulting barrage of letters
attacking the author and the staff of
this newspaper ? signals the need
for just such an editorial.
Free speech means just that ?
free speech. Not just free speech for
those who pontificate about the
ideas supported by the majority but
also for those who promote un-
popular theories.
While members of the Nazi Party
may still think the extermination of
Jews is vital to mankind and while
the Ku Klux Klan may still promote
white supremacy, it is doubtful that
either of these groups could attract
sufficient numbers to constitute a
majority. The violent and unstable
tendencies of such groups inherently
limit the scope of their followings.
The aforementioned letter from
an ECU student expounded upon
some rather emotional and pro-
vocative topics. To say reaction to
that letter has been mostly negative
would be an understatement.
The most frightening aspect of
the entire controversy is that of the
14 letters we have received, only one
has mentioned the right of Ronald
Fisk to express his opinions freely.
No one is expected to conform to
his ideas; in fact it would be a sad
indication of the state of affairs at
ECU if there had been no response.
The disappointment in this situa-
tion is the level of ignorance
displayed by those who have sug-
gested this letter should not have
been published. Whether you agree
or disagree with his ideas is irrele-
vant. At a time when it is more
fashionable to sit idly and watch the
world pass by, Ronald Fisk showed
a high degree of concern and a low
level of apathy by expressing his
beliefs on a controversial issue.
There have been rumors of
threats on his personal safety,
discussion in numerous classes of
his mental stability and countless
verbal and written attacks on his
character. Still, no one ? even the
person who acknowledged his right
to free speech ? has applauded his
courage for utilizing his freedom of
speech.
Maybe those who now vehement-
ly complain about Mr. Fisk's pro-
posals would Jiave also wished prior
censorship on Dr. Martin Luther
King Jr.?
Remember, some of his concepts
were rather unpopular with the
"majority" in the 1960s.
The right of an individual to
speak out publicly must be pro-
tected.
We applaud Ronald Fisk for the
valuable task he performed: arous-
ing the student body of ECU.
Failure To Register For Draft
Results From Vietnam War
When John Sexton was 17 he was
like any other youth ? fought a lit-
tle, drank a little, played a little.
Two years later, he was chained
and living in a 4-by-S-foot shelter
that was so small he could not stand
up. He had lost 50 pounds. He
would not see another American for
26 months.
Today, there is shrapnel in his
legs and face. Bomb fragments
blinded his right eye. His right arm
is mangled and hangs by his side ?
useless. He is still bothered by
malaria. Headaches from concus-
sions are frequent.
He says he can remember being
carried into the jungle, his once
green stretcher transformed to dark
red. His private hell seems only
yesterday when he sits alone in his
bedroom and watches streams of
light coming through a small crack
in the window. "It reminds me of
DOONESBURY
my bunker, and I catch myself drif-
ting off he says.
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John Sexton was one of
thousands Americans drafted to
serve in Vietnam. Captured by the
Vietcong in August of 1969, he
became part of a senseless tragedy
that has dishonored the United
States.
This year more than 300,000
young men have failed to register
for the draft ? perhaps they want
to avoid the tragedy that befell John
Sexton.
In last fall's presidential cam-
paign, Ronald Reagan said he
would help America's young men
avoid this fate. He said that if it
were up to him, he would not re-
quire draft registration.
Was Mr. Reagan being sincere, or
was he only spouting campaign
rhetoric?
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By PAUL COLLINS
In the summer of 1969 I was nine years
old. My family was spending its vacation
at the beach, and the days passed pretty
much routinely and idyllically. But as I
spent my time digging in the sand and play-
ing in the waves something magical was
happening a quarter of a million miles
away.
Neil Armstrong was taking a giant leap
for mankind.
My brothers and 1 struggled to stay
awake that July night as Armstrong and
Buzz Aldrin took their first steps on the
moon, and even though 1 missed most of
it, I was hooked.
I began stargazing and building models
of the lunar module and telling myself that
I would be the first man on Mars. I dream-
ed of riding through the infinity of a
billion stars, of floating weightless through
space, of visiting some distant galaxy.
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For myself and much of my generation,
the space program came to symbolize the
American Dream. While the country was
racked with dissension over the war in
Vietnam and learning painfully that politi-
cians were not knights in white satin, the
space program was something we could all
rally around. It was something to be proud
of.
But then recession and inflation pushed
the space program from the national con-
sciousness. NASA's budget was curtailed
following the Apollo program and plans
for much of what we had hoped to ac-
complish in space were shelved.
The past year, however, has seen a
revival of interest in the space program
because of the spectacular successes of
Voyager I and the space shuttle Columbia.
Last November Voyager ventured past
Saturn and sent home stunning pictures of
the cloud-covered planet and its rings and
moons. Then this month Columbia proved
itself as the first reusable spacecraft.
Still, somehow, doubts linger about
whether or not the United States should in-
vest in the exploration of space. Such an
attitude is surprising and ironic in a nation
founded on the pioneer spirit. After all,
the feeling of having pictres of Saturn float
into our consciousness must be something
akin to what the pioneers felt when they
saw the Rockies for the first time.
let us not be deterred by the fact that
the space shuttle's latest flight was fraug
with difficulties. If anything, these pro-
blems are a sign that we need lo in.
more time, effort and money in our space
program. America has a special genius I
technology; the problems can he wort
out Indeed, the problems must be work
ed out. As world population explodes,
little blue planet becomes smaller ai
smaller. Outer space has become our onh
alternative.
Cost can be no excuse for no! continuing
and even expanding the space program. In
an era when we spend billions and bilhonv
of dollars on weapons only a mad mas
would use, we can certainlv spare enou
for the relatively inexpensive cost of ex-
ploring space. For example, the cost
single nuclear aircraft carrier could p
a satellite to Jupiter, a Halley's Comet
sion, a mission to Venus, work on a Mai
roving vehicle, a Titan entry probe t
manned mission to an asteroid.
Sometimes I still look up at the sk
hope that someday I might visit on
those distant planets. Only a firm com;
ment by the United States to the space pi
gram can give us back that hope.
And that dream.
Fiskian' Protests Miss The Mark
By KIM ALBIN
In the wave of protest against Fiskian
theory on this campus, the protesters and
the followers (if there are any) of Fisk's
Precepts for Disease Control are neglecting
propriety in favor of the chance to finally
voice their humble opinions.
In my humble opinion, manners should
come first. How could that be forgotten so
deep in the Heart of Dixie?
Mr. Fisk, who just last week so boldly
indoctrinated us all to his new Hitleresque
plan to keep the world safe for Aryan
supremacy, has forgotten that as a good
Southerner and pursuer of a liberal arts
degree one should at least feign disgust a
bigotry when the objects of one's bigotry
are reading.
Those who protest Mr. Fisk's outburst
of veraciousness have also forgotten
something: the big thank you due to Mr.
Fisk for calling us down in our naivete and
forget fulness. He has reminded us that
Bigotry and Racism are alive and well, at
least on our campus. With all these
"passive liberals" around we are prone to
have ill-remembrance of that fact.
I, myself, was unaware that the majority
of the students at ECU found it such a
burden to have to "put up with" the East
Carolina Gay Community. What is it that
those concerned, unbaneful homosexuals
are doing that would tend to threaten the
rest of us?
Do they hang toilet paper from the trees
on Fifth Street or put soap bubbles in
Wright Fountain? They do not, but some
members of other revered campus
organizations do.
I will bet that more of our freshman
women get confused sexual notions from
hanging around the Sig Ep house than
from going to ECGC meetings, where
adults who accept their already established
sexual orientations meet with others of
similar persuasion. That is what organiza-
tions are for not vandalism, so what's to
"put up with?"
The same goes, of course, for the Afro-
American Cultural Center. Many of us fail
to realize what it is that black people, as a
minority, contribute to this campus. If one
cares to find out, then one should visit a
campus where there are few of them and
see the abundance of uptight white folks
who are missing the opportunity to observe
and acknowledge differences in cultures.
Our homecoming queen was selected
fairly. She must truly be a lovely woman to
have beaten out all those "beautiful white
girls.
but to face the grotesquely senseless, as
presented in Mr. Fisk's letter, requires
courage and a sincere wish to ascertain the
truth. Many would prefer that Truth lie
hidden, that pretensions serve in its stead.
In this way, naivete and forget fulness
perpetuate themselves.
So here Mr. Fisk was kind enough to
point out the injustices which he feels are
being perpetrated against the majority of
ECU students, and everyone is asking for
his excuse. Well, as a friend of mine puts
it: we are not born into this world with ex-
cuses pinned to our shirtpockets. You do
not have to excuse your own actions just
because they offend someone else.
Besides, to deny Mr. Fisk his freedom ol
speech would be to lose the benefit which
that right seeks to gain - the exchange of
ideas - which obviously holds some value
in our society. Freedom of speech require
us to formulate and evaluate our own con-
vicions; it cannot hold only for those who
have something nice and unctuous to sa
That Mr. Fisk is willing to step aside
from the sanctimonious eloquence which
we are used to is admirable. While I cannot
condone his persuasive technique (or the
rather obvious lack thereof), I must ap-
plaud his effrontery and honesty. For pro-
priety's sake, shouldn't we all say thank
you to Mr. Fisk?
r Campus Forum
Freshman Responds
I am writing in regards to the letter
printed in Thursday's paper written by
Mr. Ronald Fisk. The grounds on which
his letter was written would not stand in
the court of law. Let's analyze what he
wrote.
The black woman should not be eligi-
ble to receive the homecoming crown,
because ECU is a white school, and
blacks should take a back seat when it
comes down to homecoming queens,
because they're not beautiful enough.
Yes, we the Afro-American students are
aware of the fact that ECU is a
predominately white school, but that
doesn't have anything to do with being
elected homecoming queen. Then he had
the nerve to tell God to bless us. What
does this young man know about God?
If he knew anything about God, he
would not have written this letter at all,
because God is not the author of confu-
sion but of peace. God is not prejudice
and God is love.
Mr, Fisk's letter reveals to the public
how ignorant and immature he is. His
classification may be sophomore, but his
ability to accept and face reality is miss-
ing. People like him create problems on
this campus and need clinical treatment
because he may be at this school when
the minority becomes the majority, and
then he may commit suicide. This man
doesn't know that the blacks have to
work the same way he does in order to
make it in this life, and some have to
work harder. Afro-Americans are no
more a moral disease than the whites.
This is one moral disease that Mr.
Ronald Fisk can't do anything about. 1
take pride in leting the public know that
I am a black Afro-American woman,
and since I'm a moral disease, 1 hope
everybody that feels like Mr. Fisk cat-
ches it. I would also like to encourage
my brothers and sisters to hold their
heads up high. Let this young man's ig-
norance be our intelligence because this
is our chance of a lifetime.
WENDY COMBES
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By ART BUCHWALD
As a reader of spy thrillers, 1 have been
following the CIA-Libyan Connection
with a great deal of interest. It appears
there are these two ex-agents named Frank
Terpil and Edward Wilson who have a
contract with COl. Kadafi to train ter-
rorists, organize asassinations, hire
American pilots and ex-Green Beret types
and procure all sorts of lethal weapons
which will help Kadafi knock off his
enemies.
Now you may wonder why two
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would go over to the other side to help a
madman who runs one of the most heinous
governments in the world.
Well, if you read thrillers the way 1 do,
then you'll probably buy the answer.
Wilson and Terpil really still work for the
CIA. But inorder not to blow their cover,
they keep devising ways to knock off
American diplomats.
"The Company" has known for a long
time what the two men are up to, par-
ticularly when it comes to buying material
in the United States to further the cause of
world terrorism.
The two turncoats also have been per-
mitted to recruit mercenaries in the United
States while the U.S. has looked the other
wav to convince Col. Kadafi that they are
on his side.
Unbeknownst to the CIA, Terpil and
Wilson were photographed by the KGB in
a compromising situation in a Tripoli hotel
room, and the Soviets turned them around
so they would work for them. The Rus-
sians do not trust Kadafi anymore than the
Americans, and threatened to release
photographs of the two men to the Na-
tional Enquirer unless they became double
agents, which both men agreed to do.
What the KGB does not know is that the
real Terpil and Wilson were spirited off to
Israel, and replaced with two Israeli in-
telligence agents pretending to be Terpil
and Wilson, but actually reporting on
Kadafi's activities to Tel Aviv through a
Swiss company that "Mosad" has set up.
The French found out about this and
that is how they managed to get the Li-
byans to pull out of Chad. Terpil and
Wilson advised Kadafi to give up in Chad,
because they said they could not supply
him with any more planes from the United
States.
British intelligence, which is not sure
what game the CIA is playing, has planted
a beautiful Italian countess on Terpil, who
will do anything to avenge the murder of
her father by Kadafi.
Egyptian agents have offered Wilson
one million dollars in an American tax-free
All-Savers account, if he will push Kadafi
out of an airplane at 35,000 feet.
In order to prove his loyalty to Kadafi,
Wilson reported the offer to the colonel,
which has made Kadafi believe more in
Wilson and Terpil than he ever did.
The biggest problem Terpil and Wilson
have at the moment is to keep Libya from
building an atomic bomb in Pakistan.
The CIA has supplied the two men with
blueprints of the Three Mile Island nuclear
plant, and if the Pakistanis follow the
plans, the bomb will blow up in their faces.
Now, 1 know there were a few people
out there who believe that this scenario is
farfetched, but it is the only one that
makes any sense.
Otherwise, you have to ask yourself why
would the U.S. Central Intelligence Agen-
cy, which has terminated many of its
enemies for far less, permit two of its ex-
agents to organize a worldwide terrorist
network, and supply them with weapons
and Ameiican pilots and ex-Green Berets.
I am sticking with my theory until a bet-
ter one comes along. If I were in Kadafi's
place, I would bury both Frank Terpil and
Edward Wilson in hot sand up to their
necks, and let red ants have a go at them
until they tell the real reason why they are
so anxious to help Libya become the ter-
rorist capital of the world.
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Campus Forum
Fury, Outrage Dominate Response To Letter
l would like to comment on the letter
written on "Minority Rule by Ronald
Fisk in Thursday's school newspaper.
I was very upset and mad as hell to
read a letter by a "so-called
sophomore who obviously has a mind
from the 1960s ? just as young, and just
as immature.
In reference to your question, Mr.
Fisk, on "Why should the majority of
the students have to put up with such
sickness as the East Carolina Gay Com-
munity?" I would like to ask you, "Why
should we, (the students of ECU), put
up with someone like you?" Being a first
semester sophomore obviously explains
your reason for hanging in here (ECU),
trying to get an education. After your
letter in Thuisday's paper ? you are
surely fooling yourself.
In reference to your second question
on "Why there is an Afro-American
Culture Center If you can add one and
one together you'd realize there is a
black culture center here because there
are black students here. Just as there is a
downtown Greenville ? for those that
like to party. That is just the way it is
and will probably always be ? with or
without "your" approval.
Mr. Fisk, as for sitting around and let-
ting these "moral diseases grow if you
were properly immunized ? we
wouldn't have such a problem would
we? With your luck and a lot of people's
blessings, this disease you described will
hopefully get the best of you. Afterall,
who needs you?
Maybe the "majority of the students
here at ECU are white maybe there are
"so many beautiful white girls on cam-
pus but the fact is that: a homecoming
queen has been chosen. She will hold
that title until next year, whether you
like it or not
You claim that the reason for having a
black homecoming queen is that ? "the
majority of the students didn't vote
Did you stop to realize that, if the
"so-called majority" didn't vote, maybe
the "so-called majoritiy" didn't care!
So whose fault is that? Tough!
I didn't appreciate your comment
about the majority of the students are
going to hell if they "sit back and get
wasted I personallly believe, the
students are here to get an education ?
to better themselves, not to graduate an
"Educational Fool" like you obviously
will!
So, for you and your gang with
"spines and moral fiber ? the passive
liberalists taking heed think hard
before you get verbal diarrhea (running
off at the mouth) again, about
something you obviously don't know a
thing about. There are others jut as big
and bad as you are, who have also had
enough sh From you!
I do agree with you on one thing
though. You ended your letter with
"God Bless You (Meaning the ECU
students) You should have ended your
letter saying: "God Please Bless Me ?
but forgive me first ? I don't know any
better i never hae ? and I'm going
nowhere fast!
DEBRA WEST
Junior, Industrial Tech
The letter submitted by Ronald Fisk
was upsetting and insuiing, but one
must remember that we do have those
"individuals" who exists in our socie-
tythose individuals who can only ac-
cept others like themselves.
What is really so appalling is that the
gatekeeper(s) of the Freedom of Speech
who have been given not only the right
to inform the public but also the respon-
sibility of censorship would let an article
of this caliber get such high impact of a
newspaper as a publlic medium? And is
there an underlying significance or
reason which led the gatekeeper(s) to
give this article such high priority?
To conclude this long, complex,
anger-provoking situation: the "jist" of
all of this is that the 1981-82 Homecom-
ing Pirate at East Carolina is one who
conveys beauty, intelligence and digni-
tycharacteristics which ECU is built
upon.
Oh yeah before I forget, this person
does happen to be black since this seems
to be so important to some of you. If the
color of one's skin or the philosophy one
endorses is so important to you on a col-
lege campus, I'll have to agree with
"Ronnie Fisk" God will need to bless
us, because it is going to be a difficult
road for all of us!
And congratulations to Kimberly
Cloud, you were selected fair and square
through the democratic process!
VIRGINIA CARLTON
Graduate Student, Psychology
ECU NAACP President
Bigoted
Ronald Fisk's monumentally bigoted
letter, which appeared in the Nov. 12
issue of The East Carolinian, requires no
rebuttal. It speaks against itself more
eloquently than any rebuttal could.
While most of East Carolina's
students, who are reasonable people,
will simply ignore the letter, I would like
to point out that it does have some
value. It proves beyond doubt the ex-
istence of a brand of Neanderthal think-
ing that many might have hoped to be
extinct here.
Mr. Fisk's letter is the best argument 1
can think of in favor of the continued
existence of the very organizations it
rails against.
EDWARD HAUGHTON
Senior, Education
Gatekeepers
One of the greatest opportunities
America has to offer us is our freedom
of speech and press. Many times though,
these get miscontrued and abused.
This is why much time and objectivity
is always used in choosing those who are
to oversee and make decisions on infor-
mation that the public is to be informed.
Who's In Charge?
I didn't know that God had gone on
vacation and left Ronald Fisk in charge.
I didn't know that He had delegated His
authority to anyone, let alone the author
of that unbelievable diatribe about
minorities in the Nov. 12, 1981,
"Campus Forum
I am neither a member of the East
Carolina Gay Community nor am 1
black, but 1 take exception to what was
said in his letter.
I am not aware that being gay is a
disease. I thought that homosexuality
had been removed from that category
years ago. 1 did not know that morality
had anything to do with minoritiy. It
makes not one bit of difference to me
what the color of a woman's skin is as
long as she is lovely enough to be elected
as a homecoming queen; indeed it seems
a reflection on the progress that has been
made in our attitudes toward blacks that
this happened.
What really disturbs me is the attitude
expressed in the letter that, because
some of us are tolerant enough to live
and let live so that the gay minority has a
group with which they can identify or
that there are those who feel that
understanding Afro-American culture is
important, we are spineless and without
moral fiber. For me this is simply
untenable.
Mr. Fisk is certainly entitled to his
opinions and I'm sure that there are
those who feel as he does but 1 find what
was said, the way it was said, and why it
was said to be bigoted, prejudiced, and
totally unnecessary.
ROBLRT HORST
Sophomore, Social Work
'Amusing' Piece
Mr. Fisk. I must admit, your letter to
the Campus Forum was one of the most
amusing little pieces that that paper has
printed in quite some time. But sir. you
tease me with your innuendo; what ex-
actly is it that we should be doing to the
East Carolina Gay Community ? lining
them up for machine-gun execution?
You suggest that we should not stand id-
ly by while such an anathema as the
Afro-American Culture Center stands
on our campus; what do you suggest
that we do: fire bomb the place. And
what is this business about the
homecoming queen? Do you think that
those of us with sufficient "spines and
moral fiber" should lynch the young
lady from one of Ficklen's goalposts. Be
specific sir, don't tease. Perhaps you can
develop your sordid hints of retirubtion
more fully in Thursday's Campus
Forum.
Bur sir, I think it would be better if
you just sneak out of town quietly and
do not return. God bless us? Indeed sir,
God help you.
GORDON IPOCK
Sophomore, English
Rain Pours
1 guess the rain only pours where it
decides to. The East Carolinian (our
paper) which is supposed to address the
affairs of all students without bigotry
and bias has just given us another exam-
ple of the backwardness and digression
which harbors in this region. We have
come a long way, but we also have a
long way to come. Being the idealistic or
not so idealistic person, humans should
be able to live in harmony with each
other knowing that every man is every
man's teacher. This letter addresses the
fact of the real unprofessionalism
associated with the student paper. The
picture of the homecoming queen, alias
homecoming pirate that we all saw in the
paper was a haphazard attempt at trying
to make shambles of the selection of this
year's queen. This was a thorough and
typical misrepresentation of how certain
facets depict minorities. The minority
student body will stand tall and proud
(in this writer's opinion) even though
this type of injustice still exists. Kimber-
ly Cloud, like any other student is here
for an education with progressivenism in
mind. Don't let this mockery (not of
you, but ECU) alter your aims and am-
bitions. These are the same sort of things
that our forefathers and foremothers
had to deal with and overcome.
In closing, I would like to address The
Ebony Herald. Sooner or later you're
going to realize that you are a minority
paper and address more of those issues
in a style and manner which reflect those
same mores and values. Our pride and
dignity has taken us over the mountains
and will continue to do so.
DWAINE JEFFERSON
Environmental Health
Applauds
1 applaud you, Mr. Ronald Fisk! You
should stand tall and proud now because
you have proved yourself to be an
egotistical bigot. I have found your arti-
cle to be very enlightening and entertain-
ing plus it made great lining for my trash
can and for my bird cage. But my ques-
tion is, Mr. Fisk, why are you enrolled in
college? You would surely gain success
peddling your opinions at your local
Smith-Douglas fertilizer company. God
bless you, Ronny. I raise my flag to you
and give you a royal salute!
JACKIE JOHNSON,
Sophomore, Drama
Audacity
When the letter in the Nov. 12 edition
of The East Carolinian written by
Ronald Fisk was brought to my atten-
tion, 1 was more shocked than angered
at the fact that he had the audacity to
lash out against our homecoming queen
for being black as well as for being a
winner. He says that the reason for
ECU's black homecoming queen is
"only because the majoritv of the
students did not vote Personally, 1
think he can do better than that. If the
majority of the students did not vote,
then, the majority of the students, in this
case, do not count. Ms. Cloud was nam-
ed homecoming queen because the
students, white as well as black, chose
her. We all know that the blacks are not
the prepotent race here in terms of
number, and, whether Mr. Fisk knows it
or not, we are not the only ones who in-
fluenced the outcome for this year. 1
think he (Mr. Fisk) should just sit back,
relax, and enjoy the fact that we have a
black homecoming queen because there
is nothing he can do about it now.
What bothers me most, though, is the
fact that Mr. Fisk used very bad taste in
using the term "moral diseases" to get
his point across. To me, this suggests a
degree of immaturity on his part. He
also doesn't think he should "stand idle
at the fact that there is an Afro-
American Culture Center I thought
that was hilarious because that's
something else he has no control over. I
see nothing wrong with us having whta is
probably the only wooden building on
campus for various activities. It's not
hurting anyone, and it's not as though it
were off limits to him.
1 know that the man has a right to ex-
press his point of view, but I've always
found this type of lunacy hard to deal
with. There was one other thing,
though, that really interested me. Mr.
Fisk went as far as to say that some peo-
ple have had enough and do not plan to
take anymore. Well, that's tough,
because ther's more to come.
ROBERT McRAE
Freshman, Political Science
Lone Sympathizer
I recently read Ronald Fisk's editorial
and I must say I was amazed at his
boldness. Many think that such a seem-
ingly prejudiced man as Mr. Fisk should
not be allowed to make such reactionary
remarks; after all, this is the age of equal
rights. All people regardless of color,
religion, or sexual preference should
have the right to exist in our society.
However, I agree with Mr. Fisk, in
that specific groups often seem over-
emphasized. Perhaps I'm ignorant, but I
don't understand why specific groups
seem to have privileges the majority of
students do not have. I realize, in years
past, that many minorities were
restricted from the privileges of the ma-
jority. 1 also realize that certain facets of
society are still discrimatory. Many
country clubs still restrict their member-
ship to white, Anglo-Saxon, protestants.
But, this university is open to all people.
Classes, extracurricular activities, and
the student union are open to all
students. Why then, are such university-
supported organizations as the Afro-
American Cultural Center and the East
Carolina Gay Community allowed on
campus?
I'm not saying these organizations
should not be allowed to exist. I believe
in a free society in which all organiza-
tions (Afro-American Cultural Center,
East Carolina Gay Community, Moral
Majority, and American Nazi Party)
should be allowed to exist. However, I
don't believe a state-supported universi-
ty should cater to special interest groups.
No group, regardless of race, religion or
sexual preference should be granted
special privileges. As I stated earlier, all
students have equal access to all classes,
extracurricular activities, and the Stu-
dent Union. Why do some students have
something extra?
A possible retort to the above ques-
tion is that these organizations provide a
forum for the views of these groups and
to protect their cultural (and historical)
singularity. This is unnecessary. Few
people are unaware of the problems and
concerns jf minorities. The university
deals with these topics in numerous
sociology, psychology, English and
historv class.
1 truly hope my letter is not misinter-
preted. 1 am not prejudiced; 1 believe
firmly in equal rights and privileges.
God bless.
MARK BROOKS
Geography
Homecoming Pirate
1 would like to pose a question to
whomever it may concern. It seems to
me that more recognition should have
been given to our homecoming queen,
Kim Cloud, representing SOULS.
As I understand, the acting chancellor
or someone under the vacated offices,
was supposed to have greeted Miss
Cloud, escorted her off of the field and
sat with her for the remainder of the
game in the press box. 1 also understand
that she was to be invited to dinner by
this person. None of this was done.
I can only recall, in reading last Tues-
day's The East Carolinian, that there
was only one sentence pertaining to the
crowning of Miss Cloud as homecoming
queen. The picture that appeared on the
front page could have also been selected
with more discretion.
Did all of this come about because
Miss Cloud was the second black
homecoming queen in East Carolina's
history? It is a shme that more was
printed on the mishap of the homecom-
ing concert than the homecoming queen.
For once can the majority give the
minority more credit on their successes
than on their failures.
SCOTT SUMMERS
Freshman, Computer Science
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Buckminster Fuller
at his appearence at Hendrix Theater Tuesday iiiht
By MIKE HUGHES
Maff Wnlrr
"I'm confident that everything
I've done is nothing no one else
could have done under the same cir-
cumstances
Perhaps if someone else would
have said these words, they would
have been more believable. But for a
world-famous architect, engineer,
inventor, poet and artist, somehow
that amount of modesty seems a bit
extreme.
Nicknamed the "Leonardo da
Vinci of our times Richard
Buckminster Fuller delivered a lec-
ture to a full crowd at Hendrix
Theatre Tuesday night. Students,
faculty, staff and guests sat in awe
as the 86-year-old Milton.
Massachusetts native spoke on
several topics, ranging from his
childhood in the late ninteenth and
early twentieth centuries to today's
vast world problems.
Being twice expelled from Har-
vard for skipping his freshman
midterm exams, Fuller never com-
pleted his formal education.
However, 50 years later, he was
awarded an honorar) membership
into the Phi Beta Kappa at Harvard.
In World War 1. Fuller com-
manded a crash boat flotilla. He
was later recognized for his inven-
tion ot special life-saving equipment
for the ships and was awarded an
appointment to the United States
Naval Academy at Annapolis.
In 1917, he married Anne
Hewlett, daughter oi .lames Monroe
Hewlett, a well-known architect and
muralist.
Following a brief nine working in
conjunction with his father-in-law
and a Chicago based construction
company. Fuller was forced out of
his job b economic tensions.
Penniless and still mourning the
death of his first daughter. Alexan-
dra. Fuller contemplated and nearly
succeeded at committing suicide.
"1 decided then to commit an ego
suicide Fuller explained. "I decid-
ed that 1 would no longer work for
myself
Ihus. he claims he devoted his re-
maining years to a nonprofit search
'Devil' Comes To ECU
With Charlie Daniels
B KAREN WENDT
Mle r Oltt.r
( harlie Daniles looks "more like
a fiddle-playing grizzly bear than a
rding to one woman
iewed him. We will see
da) nighi when the Charlie
Daniels Band arrears at Minges
Coliseum.
Daniels has been on the music cir-
cuit for more than 20 years and his
success is evident, especially in his
last album "Million Mile Reflec-
tions
Daniels began, his career with a
band called the "Jaguars" at the
ace 21. According to Daniels the
band played "every honky-tonk bet-
ween Raleigh and Texas, or at least
quite a few of 'em
Daniels has also served time as a
studio musician recording with such
names a Flatt and Scruggs. Martv
Robbins, Bob Dylan and Pete
Seeger. But after his time in the
studio he '?aid that he "Just wanted
to gel back to what 1 did best, to
play what we wanted to play the way
we wanted to play it
The Charlie Daniels Band was
formed in 1971. They had their first
hit in 1972 with "Uneasy Rider
Over the course of eight years the
band has recorded 10 LP's.
Two of Daniels biggest hits came
from his last album; Tht Devil Went
Down To (n orgia a grammy winner
and In America which went gold ap-
peared soon after. In ls80 the
Country Music Association award-
ed Daniels and his band the titles of
Instrumentalist of the year, In-
strumental group ol the Year and
Single ol the yeai tor Devil.
Darneis has also performed in the
I as! Wing of the White House tor
President Jimmy Cartel and had a
"We don't bother with
trends or fads. Our band
represents a certain
amount of something in
a world that changes
everyday - oops, I sound
like John Chancellor
?Charlie Daniels
cameo role in the film L'rbun
Cowboy.
The Charlie Daniels Band itself
consist of Daniels, "Ta"
DiGregoria (keyboards and support
vocals), lorn Cram- (Guitar and
Vocals), Charlie Hayward (Bass).
Fred Edwards, (Drums) and Jim
Marshall (Drums).
However the entire touring
ensemble includes about 50 people
since the addition of backup singers,
strings and horns with the success of
Million Mile Reflections.
Daniels is very open in his opi-
nions on certain subjects: Here is a
sampling.
Daniels' On Touring:
"I like it out here- 1 actually
sleep better on the tour bus than I
do in a motel. The only thing 1 have
against the road is that it keeps me
away from home
"I couldn't imagine this band
doing less than 100 to 125 dates a
year. I don't wanna take no year's
sabbatical and go to see some gurus
in the Himalayas to learn the secret
of life
They usually do about 200 dates per
year.
Daniels' On Fans and People:
Stavs out of people's wa)
and 1 want them to stay out of mine.
That's why I'm here, back off the
road, ain't botherin' nobody and
am'i gonna let nobody bother me.
The last fight I got into, a man told
me my new ccowboy hat looked sil-
ly. I threw him through a bathroom
door
"But if vou want to get
for design patterns that could max-
imize the social uses of the world's
energy resources and evolving in-
dustrial complex.
In 1927, Fuller invented and
demonstrated a factory-assembled,
air-deliverable house, later called
the Dymaxion house. The invention
had its own utilities.
Six years later, in 1933, he design-
ed and built the first Dymaxion car.
T his new invention could cross open
fields like a teep, accelerate to 120
mph, canv 12 passengers and
average 28 miles per gallon of gas.
In 194C Fuller developed a new
Dymaxion car using the advanced
technology ol the times. I'sing three
separate air-cooled engines in the
new automobile, Fuller achieved an
mph rating of between 40 and 50.
This car could move sideways like a
crab, since all the wheels wen
steei able.
But despite these technological
advances m automobiles. Fuller was
unable to market the 1943 Dvmax-
ion and its predecessoi. Stern
resistance from the automotive in-
dustry kepi thi
cial production.
I uller aiso ,
geometry which he called
"Energetic-Synergetu ge mei
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tetrahedron, a pyramid shape ?
four sides.
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The Charlie Daniels Band
.appears Friday Night at Minges Coliseum
philosophical about it, I think peo-
ple are kind of changing, getting
bak to simpler things in life. And
our music represents wide-open
spaces and a free-wheelin' attitude.
Maybe the people who don't get a
chance to live like that a whole lot-
especially the people in big cities like
Chicago and New York - can live
that kind of life vicanouslv foi a
few minutes anyway, by comin' to
line of our concerts
On Autographs And Fans:
"l feel like I owe it to 'em. it's
taken me twenty years to get to the
point where people ask for an
dutocraph. and I'm happv to give
it
"I don't have any patience with
people who treat fans bad. I saw
Jimmy Connors one night when a
fan put his hand on his shoulder,
and Connors just peeled that gu
hand oft I'd have decked that
beligerent little son ot a bitch- well 1
wouldn't neither, 'cause 1 don't do
See DANIELS, Page 8
Marching Pirate
Band Wows Cary
'A irplane' Strikes This Weekend
Robert Havs, Julie Hagerty and Robert Stack star in the 1980 smash "Airplane" this weekend at Hendrix Theater.
Trans American Flight 209 boasts the strangest collection of characters this side of the Marx Brothers: a pilot with
questionable sexual proclivities; two religious zealots; a singing stewardess; a doctor whose nose elongates
Pinocchio-style when he lies. When the entire crew and most of the passengers succumb to food poisoning, ex-
fighter pilot Ted Striker (Hays) is forced to take the controls. The only trouble is that he's frightened of planes, a
hangup he developed following the deaths of several war buddies. The film also stars Lloyd Bridges, Leslie Nielson,
Peter Graves, Lorna Patterson, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. The film will be shown at 5, 7, and 9 pm at Hendrix
Theater this Friday and Saturday Nights. It is sponsored by the Student Union Films Committee.
By TRACY GRAY
Sliff Unirr
The bast Carolina football team
finished their season last Saturday
afternoon, but it wasn't quite over
for the East Carolina marching
band. A few hours after the game
was over, the marching pirates load-
ed up the busses and headed for
Cary, North Carolina for their final
performance.
Why were they going to Cary?
They were traveling to Cary High
School to exhibit their expertise in
marching and maneuvering and
their overpowering ability to pro-
duce high energy sound at the 23rd
Annual Cary Band Day.
Cary Band Day is a prestigious
event held every year to give high
school marching bands a chance to
compete against each other. High
school bands throughout North
Carolina, South Carolina, and
Virginia are invited to this contest.
It is prestigious because it is the
largest high school competition in
the South. This year there were 46
bands competing in three different
classes. The marching pirates were
invited to play at the end of the
competition to "show 'em how it's
done
The Cary Band Boosters helped
with expenses to insure that the-
band could make the trip.
This is indeed a high honor that
has been bestowed upon the ECU
band. Obviously, Cary wanted the
best band possible to play at their
Band Day.
The competion which started at
9:00 a.m lasted until after mid-
night. Even though the weatner was
cold, the band members were so full
of energy and hyped up that they
couldn't feel it. If it had snowed, it
wouldn't have deterred this band
performance. They had been look-
ing forward to this event all
semester. They had worked hard for
this day. There were many long,
hard practices, extra rehearsals,
learning new drills on short notice.
and practicing and memorizing
music outside of regualar rehear-
sals.
There were literally thousands of
people surrounding Carys' football
field just to see the bands perform.
That crowd was the most critical au-
dience that me band has faced all
season. The band was emotionally
keyed up and well prepared tor this
huge turnout in Carv
After the final competing band
had finished playing, the ECl mar-
ching band was held in hiding for a
few minutes before entering the
stadium. This pause was intentional
so that the crowd could anticipate
the entrance
The band definite)) made an im-
pression on the people from then
first step into view of the crowd.
The people were alreauv on their
feet as the ECU marching pirates
entered the gates to the stadium. A
roar went up from the stands that
could have been heard in Raleigh.
The band lined up on the field
and faced away from the press box
to warm up. The stands on this side
were filled with high school bands
that had already performed. The
stands were so close to the field that
Assistant Director Joel Schultz had
to stand at the top of these stands to
direct the warm-up music. Even the
warm-up music was a display of
power. Before the band could
finish, they received a standing ova-
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9 Fuller Comes To Lecture At Mendenhall
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include a system of car-
tography (map draw-
ing) that presents all the
land areas of the world
without significant
distortion, die-stanped,
prefabricated
bathrooms,
tetrahedronal floating
cities, underwater
deodesic-domed farms
and expendable paper
domes.
However despite all
these accomplishments,
Workmen Have
Odd Histories
By CHAD BUFFKIN
Start Wrilef
The ECU Marching Pirates
Marching Band
Gains Applause
At Cary Meet
Continued From Page 6
tion. It was definitely a receptive au-
dience.
The band then turned to begin
their show. The people stood up,
cheered and yelled at the end of each
song. Other than applauding at the
end of each solo, the audience re-
mained quiet throughout each song.
They were completely captivated by
the show.
After the band finished their ex-
plosive exit, the crowd seemed to
stand in unison in appreciation of a
grand performance. About five
minutes later the audience seemed to
quiet down somewhat. They assum-
ed that the performance was over
and they seemed well satisfied. But
the marching pirates were not
finished. They had one more trick
up their sleeve. The brass line
gathered a little closer together and
the band played Earth, Wind, and
Fires' "In The Stone" as an encore.
The audience screamed with delight
from the first note.
When the song was finished, the
band marched off the field amid
shouts of approval. The band
members were as fully, if not more,
satisfied with their performance
than were the people in the stands.
The band marched off as a unit,
with the members staring straight
ahead and feeling proud while the
crowd cheered as they walked by the
stands. A staff member of Cary
Band Day ran down onto the field
to present Head Drum Major Scott
Ireland with a trophy in recognition
of the bands' outstanding perfor-
mance. The marching pirates reciev-
ed a standing ovation until the
whole band was well out of the
stadium.
Two days later. Director Tom
Goolsby was still excited about the
marching bands' performance. He
said that he would like to con-
gratulate the Drum line on the best
performance they have given all
season. "They did an excellent
job exclaimed Goolsby while he
was reflecting back on the show. He
says that he is "proud of the whole
band and the entire staff
Goolsby also stated that perform-
ing for exhibition like the band did
in Cary will help in recruiting fine
players for next years' band. He
continued saying, and after a
performance like that, next years'
band will be even bigger and bet-
ter When asked to describe the
performance at Cary in one short
statement, Goolsby leaned back in
his chair, smiled and replied,
"absolutely awesome
Well, there will be no more band
practices this year and students will
no longer see the familiar scene of
the band at the bottom of the hill
until next fall. The marching band
deserves a round of applause, or
maybe a standing ovation, because
they had a fantastic season and
definitely went out in style.
Goolsby says that there is one
more meeting for band members to
attend which will be held on the first
Monday after Thanksgiving at 3:00
to review the season. And to some,
even more important than this will
be a discussion of the semi-annual
East Carolina University Marching
Pirate Band Favorite Beverage and
Socializine Jamboree.
For those of you who
haven't noticed yet, a
team of construction
workers has been on
campus for almost two
years now remodeling
the old drama building.
Every morning at
7:30 sharp they are
right on the job. The
first thing they do after
strapping on their tool
belts is go up to the se-
cond floor of the
building and hang out
of the windows.
I thought for a while
they were working up
there, but one morning,
when I saw eight har-
dhats sticking out of
one window, I realized
they were watching
girls in the parking lot.
1 must admit though,
that despite the
elements (ie. rain, cold,
mud, snow, heat,
shorts, sundresses,
danceskins) they have
made rapid progress in
putting up the "gray
ghost
Just walking by that
building on my way to
class makes me proud.
I think about those
workers toiling day
after day with the scor-
ching sun beating
down, their bandanas
tied around their
foreheads to keep the
sweat out f their eyes.
One day last week. I
could stand it no
longer. I noticed one of
the guys struggling with
a pipe wrench. The
sweat was dripping off
his chin, and he kept
tossing his head back to
shake his hair from his
eyes. I threw my books
down, walked over to
him and put my hand
on his shoulder.
"Listen pal 1 said
humbly. "You're kill-
ing yourself. You don't
have to work like this,
let me buy you a cool
drink and we'll talk.
He looked up from
his pipe wrench and
smiled. "Not to worry
young man he said.
"I am truly grateful for
your generosity and
touched by your com-
passion for my state of
being, but with all due
respect sir, I am quite
alright
I stared at him in
amazement. "Gee
fellow I said. "You
don't talk like a con-
struction worker
"But I am my son, I
am
Again I stared at him
amazed. "But why?" 1
asked. "Why do you
torture yourself by do-
ing this kind of work?"
"Perhaps young
man, it is because they
pay me $21 an hour
"Darn mister I
cried. "The vice-
chancellor of our
school doesn't make
that kind of money
"I know young man,
I know. I used to be the
vice-chancellor of your
school
Fuller does not regard
himself as an inventor
or an architect. In his
view, as expressed
Tuesday night, all of
his developments are
accidental or "interim
accidents" in the
growth of world
strategy.
The world strategy,
says Fuller, aims at
radical solutions of
world problems by fin-
ding means to do more
with less.
Fuller once wrote: "I
did not set out to design
a house that hung from
a pole, or to manufac-
ture a new type of
automobile, invent a
new system of map pro-
jection, develop
geodesic domes or
Energetic-Synergic
geometry. 1 started
with the universe ? as
an organization of
energy systems of
which all our ex-
periences and possible
experiences are only
local instances. I could
have ended up with a
pair of flying slippers
But Tuesday night,
Fuller seemed onlv con
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12 Smaller
14 Raised
15 African
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17 Earth god-
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19 Occurrence
20 Inlet
21 Digraph
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28 Lath
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31 Passed by
34 Narrate
35 Stews
36 Behold'
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38 Concerns
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40 Greek letter
41 Brittle
42 African
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5 Football
teams
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9 Chinese mile
10 Vast throng
11 Monastery
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16 Girls name
19 Heath
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22 Spoor
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25 Fnjit
26 Real estate
maps
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29 Ceases
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By JOSEPH OLINICK
Matt VWiln
It' you frequent ihe library, you might come
across Alexandra Rentier. Usually, she spends
much of her time there, intense!) studying 01
rewriting notes. Definitely, she is one of ECU'S
ambitious, foreign students
Alexandra Renner is from and still is a citizen
of Germany Presently, she is here at ECU on a
student visa, studying Spanish and business;
although. Spanish is her field of concentration.
She has been in the United States since the fall ol
1979, and aside from that's too much in Spanish
language and literature, she has aw excellent
knowledge of the English language and can speak
it quite well.
Of her future plans, Alexandra said. "As soon
as 1 get my degree in Spanish here, 1 am going to
tr to get a fellowship oi scholarship at UNC and
get my masters in Spanish there
Alexandra had a lot to say about hei people
and then wa of thinking: "1 would say, in a way,
We (the German people) are raised more open
minded. More open to problems. To discussing
problems. To see problems and to not take things
the wa the are and not try to change them. Peo-
ple are more liberal. In Germany, people are
more politically active. More aware
Here, no! man) care. Here, the attitude is sort
of let it go, don't worry about it. America is
isolated, and the majority of the Americans only
worry abom what directly affects them. In Ger-
man), we have to worry about it (the world situa-
tion "
?'With Reagan in office, America may have to
start worrying. 1 dislike his policy because I think
he is a threat to peace
"In Germany, people are not as prejudiced as
they are here. Anti-prejudice is stressed because
of the event that took place in Germany, dating
the war. We don't discriminate by race, religion.
and all these things, but 1 think it's put in practice
over there (Germany) whereas, here it's not really
in the mmds of the people It's just enforced. I
don't judge people for their narrow-mindedness.
1 just wani them to realize that there are other
things and thai you have to give everybody the
same chance, and you have to accept other things
and not just put them away and no! just say
because you're black oi Chinese you're no good
It's not onh towards blacks. It's Indians It's
everything. It's not tan It's jusl not right to do
something like that
"Germany does have terrorism. Right now, it's
calming down. You don't know. It might be the
calm before the big takeover.
Alexandra seemed awed by American super-
markets: "Just the supermarkets. Why do vou
weed 30 different kinds of crackers to choose
from. It's just the free enterprise system 1 was
just shocked with the supermarkets We have a
lot (In Germany). Ihev'te just so big (the supei
markets). You can get lost in them. This huge
variety
"Oh yea, brown bagging. I couldn't believe it.
1 thought it was a joke. You can't go in a store
and buv liquor. That sou have to go m certain
stores. That you can't buv u on certain days. Or
that in someplaces you have to bring your own. In
Europe, you can't brine yout own stuff (liquor).
In Germain, you can buv it (liquor) in the super
markets
Alexandra was perplexed In the preppy trend:
"This preppy stuff. Ihis unitary uniform stuff.
Everybody runs around wearing the same thing.
e don't have that in Germain. e have aligatoi
shirts, but not this typical students outfit here.
Eithei preppy or bluejeans and Nike tennis shoes
levis. Iod. Polo If you wear something dit-
ferent, people state at you here in Greenville. In
Germany, nobody cares what you wear
About downtown, Alexandra said. "What is so
attractive about downtown. I here is no place I
really like to go I hate loud music, like KISS or
AC-DC. Oh God. I don't like it. You go to Pan-
tana Bob's, and you can't talk because it's too
loud. You can't breath because the an is bad. I ell
me what you do there. Stand around, drink beer,
gel tat Ihev'te lacking a nice little bar or pub
with a quiet relaxed atmosphere
"In Germany, there's a lot ol rock, "here's a
lot ot new wave. A lot ol reggae. 1 like reggae and
upbeat jazz
"1 was surprised by the television news m the
states. Ihe Hist time 1 watched the new I
thought il was a takeoff. 1 thought it wasn't real.
l! was so incomplete. In Germany, we have hour-
ly news. Here, they only touch briefly the things
(news) Ihe United States is so isolated, so it is
more .once! tied with the things that will effect it.
In I urope, we have heavy news about tl e states,
even though it isn't directly affecting us. If there-
are election in Italy, we heai everything about it.
1 hey (the l.uropean media) go more into depth.
I very hour there is news. It's so complete. You
hear what's happening all over. We (the Get
mans) have a lot more reports and documen-
taries
"We don't have a lot of IV pro-ams, in
general. We only have two or three channels, and
they don't play everyday. You don't have com
mercials in the movies You watch, them straight
through
"Ihe soaps here are so tragic. So unreal. So
ridiculous. If we had to worry about problems
these people (soap opera characters) have to
worry about, life would be so easy. No wonder so
many people are narrow minded, it they only see
these things
"Spoils is not much ot a big thing over there.
People here are such fanatics. 1 still can't unders
tand football. Sports are nice, but it shouldn't oc
cupy so much tune unless you are a real player.
That's freedom, though
About her country, Alexandra said, "1 come
from a social welfare slate. I was surpnsed here
that when vou get sick you don't get paid. In Gel
main, vou get paid it you're sick from your
employer. Aftei 6 weeks, a government institu
tion will pav vou. In Germany, vou don't have to
worrv about a thing Foi example, my dental
work is all government paid Students get special
insurance that pavs 90 percent. We have socializ
ed medicine and education, but we don't have
foodstamps. I don't think the taxes are any more
here. All our universities arc public and tree. We
don't have private universities, but
one of the things Alexandra seemed to n
about hei country was the shopping. "There are
more stores there (Germany) to buv clothes You
go into the mall here, vou see one you've seen
them all. In Germany, there ate little boutiques
and shops. There's a little Arab shop and a
French shop with fashions direci town 1
And here, if vou don't have a car, you're bad
off. Iheie (Germany) there is a lot ol public
transportation. Here, there's none
"I can't say it 1 like it here or there. I I ?
cosmopolitan nature ot Europe I n
Spam or Switzerland in 2 days i u an
different culture so easily and quickly. 1 hi
different people
"There (In Alexandra's hometown) every)
is older. The! town I come from is
aie 14th and 15th century build! H
cozy atmosphere, rhat's the :
man people: they like '
It's just cozy
"I hke it here. 1 here's nothii
a lot I hke ii because I see I'm d
I'm learning something, and I'n
for grades, which the
are doing
the end ot the interview . ?
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things like that, but
what the hell? I think
it's an honor to be ask-
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and anyl
think so oughta go oft
in the woods and be a
forest ranger so
nobody'll bother him
Daniels On Music:
CD- "We don't
bother with trends or
lads. Our ban
represents a certain
amount o something
in a world that changes
everyday- oops. I
sound like John
Chancellor"
"Anything that 1 feel i
right to do musically
I'll do. lo hell with
what genie it tails into.
As long as it sounds
good, what difference
does it make "here's
too many people 'hat
lave a stilted attitude
towards tilings
abels are restricting.
don' t see why
everything has to be
p i g e o n - h o
categorized, and com-
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about what kind ol
music we play. 1 think
about what quality ol
music we play. Oui
music has definitely got
some country influence
on it. but it's definitely
not what's known as
traditional country
music. V e just play the
music and let othei
people put titles on it.
Some reviewers from
up thai vvav call il
?southern twang, Nor-
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gang I thought that
was pretty apt. But if
people want to call me
a hillbilly, hell, that's
all right. It they want to
call me a rock 'n'
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seas ; mioi light end Norwood
V'a . ? ghi tw ice as main passes
as anyo on the squad 20
!88 yards S . ?re split end
k kv N hols wasn't fat behind in
h. he had 2(to on just
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pet reception.
bav karlton Nelson was
mi's leading ground-gainer,
hall 107 times foi 597
yards and eight touchdowns while
producing 973 yards in total ol
tense. 1 he Portsmouth, Va . name
also passed foi 4S4 yards and three
tout hdow ns.
Running back Icon I aw son will
return foi his senioi season aftet
uishing foi 393 yards on 77 carries,
rough!) yards an attempt
Sophomore running bask limmy
Walden proved he is .1 houafide
deep threal by returning kickoffs
foi 540 yards an average "I 22
yards pei attempt including a
93-yard score against I ast I en-
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Junioi ("lint Hat 1 is was the team
leadet in interceptions with five,
which he tein 1 ned foi 73 yards. I ell
coiner bask Gerald Sykes returns
lot his senioi season aftei picking
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Def e n s i v ely, I i nebac k e 1 Mike
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Green Paces Gold
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guard 1 ony Byles was the
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le's high man, with 19 points.
Ik connected on 8 ot 10 field goals
ame up with five steals.
FCI head 1 oach l)aL ()dom,
at the score! 's able .1 his
as? ran the show, said he was
the performance o
Pirates Plav Host To
Australians Monday
bastina men s
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in an
1M :
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p m
T -A.entlv
captureball
championship,fying
plav for the Meorld Bast
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5, 1. d on teams. il IS U.S
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am dro
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?.quads, to irginia c om-
nwealth and George Mason.
by three points apiece. While the
Pirai tiding their Purple-
Gold intrasquad game last night
(Wednesday), the national team
was inollege Park taking on the
Mao. land Terrapins.
I he Austrialians will play West
3 tonightI hursday). Pttt-
shu I riday and lona on
re neadmg south
I
Petei W alsh, a sev en-foot
center, leads the Australians.
ng plaved in two Olympic
Games and one world champion-
ship w u age 2 will not
t. tallest but also the
ei on the .Mmges Col-
Monday night.
Clowning Around
Lady Pirate basketball players Sam fortes (below) and Fran Hooks took
time out for a few laughs during ? ednesday's Basketball Media Day in
Minxes Coliseum The two will be be serious, though, when the team's
season begins on Sow 29. (Photo Bv Gary Patterson)
both sides, though he admitted the
club has a ways to go to reach its
goals.
"I think what we said before the
game, that our defense is ahead of
our offense, was obvious tonight
Odom said. "Out defense definitely
played very, very well. But I was
pleased with a lol of other areas as
well
The Gold squad nevei trailed en
route to victory. 1 he winners' lead
reached a high ol IS points twice in
the second halt.
Five members ol the winning
squad finished in double figures.
Besides Green, c harles Wat kins pit-
ched m 12. Mike Gibson 11. while
point guards Herbert Gilchrisl and
Bruce Peartree both added 10
Free throws may have plaved a
crucial role in the game's outcome.
After the Purple team had cut the
Gold load to but tour early in the se-
cond halt, at 38-34, the eventual
winner's slammed the dooi shut.
The Gold team answered the Pur-
ple comeback with a five-minute,
13-2 domination. Seven ol the 13
points came via the charity strike.
The Purple team took 2D more
shots than the winners, 69-49, but
made only 37 7 percent ol them.
I he Gold club hit a much better
48.9 pei cent.
"1 think we will become a good
ot tensive team Odom said "We
just haven't worked together as
units offensively yet. We will start
that tomorrow (Thursdav). We
hope that will smooth some things
out a bit
Odom added that he would know
lots more about the Pirates follow-
ing next Monday night's contest
with the Australian national team.
Tip-off is set for 7 p.m. in Mmges
Coliseum.
"I look forward to seeing us
against the Australians odom
said. "1 know they're good. I fiat
game will be a much better gauge
for us than this one.
Odom feels the Pirates will be en-
thused about facing outside opposi-
tion foi the opposition. "It's not a
lot of fun playing and watching
yourself all the time he claimed.
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w it h 132 nu hiding 2 again
powerful Miami ol Florida Def en
sue end lody Sshul returns loi his 1
senioi season aftei slopping op
pi nenis 124 1 imes in 1 98 1
B' 'Hi Si luil and ii ant wei e
( how anollege transfers
" I lie people are disappointed 11
1 he s f, , ,v ord admit ts 1 in
" 1 hat disappointment i annoi ioik h .t
1 he disappoinl meni w Inch 1 lie h
coa lies and playci s teel Winniii
a way ol life to
I moi sav s his Pii ates ' 'are no
deleaied; we are just behind. We
w ill play again in Septembei. and w
w ill catch up
to improve 11
w e 11 a v e. b u 1
I
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he Pirate coach
"inexpei kmu 0" and K mg 1 y
learn" w ill not be meni i ?ned dm in
the 1982 season " ha
nucleus he .ay I 1 I
football team We musi work hard
n g a w
1
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OB Carlton Nelson led M 1
in rushing this pat season
Green Means Go
Tor (he Gold team Wednesday Green,harles Green thai is,
certainly meant go. Green, shown here scoring against '
pie center David Reicheneker, finished with 14 points, 12 re
bounds and three blocked shots in the annual II inti
quad basketball game. (Photo By Gary Patterson)
Pirate Players Explain Season
B1 OM AS BRA ME
suff Wnlrr
Last Saturday's 31-21 loss to
William and Mary left the last
Carolina football team with a losing
record for only the second time
since 1971. Despite that fact, the
Pirates appear to be optimistic
about 1982.
The 1981 season was one of ups
and downs for the Bucs. Other than
the shocking final-game loss, the
lowest point had to have been a 56-0
loss to nationally-ranked arch-rival
North Carolina.
The shutout ended a 110-game
Pirate scoring streak, at the time the
third longest in the nation.
On the other end of the measuring
stick, the Pirates scored a near-
record breaking 66-24 win over Fast
Tennessee State before an excited
Homecoming crowd.
Several ol the Pirates were inter-
viewed; some offered reasons why
1981 was not what many would have
liked it to be.
" I he season was a disappoint
meni foi the team said freshman
running back limmy Walden. "We
were a young team and young
players make mistakes due to inex
penence
Senior linebacker Dexter Martin
felt some changes on the sidelines
could have been a help at times.
"Minor adjustments at certain
positions could have made a dif-
ference in some games Martin
said. "Mental attitudes and not
playing up to capabilities were some
of the other problems of the
sease
N latter what the reason for the
disappointments oi 'SI. the Pirates
would appeal to be headed tot bet-
ter things in '82. Onlv ten seniors,
including uist foui defensive and
three offensive starters, graduate
Simply speaking. 15 starters will be
back.
"Next yeai will be a turning
point said safety Marvin Elliott
Running hack I eon 1 aw son agreed
with Elliott and said that the Pirates
are a "coming team
A new crop ol seniois will lead
the wav next veat One o those
leaders is sure to be defensive end
lody Schulz, the team's second
leading tack lei in '81 and a potential
All-America candidate foi "82.
Of this season's losing record,
Schulz said bluntly aftei the loss to
William aiivl Matv. "we won't let it
happen to us again
Charles
Chandlei
Purple-Go Id
Bright Spots
11
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appeal
Byles shi wed
leading bo
1 I
layups. B
baskei EC fans
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1 )efense A kt -
basl
ed -i pretty de
quad contt
?
I he club was definitt
sivelv.coach Davt I
mill. . dnd said i
time had yei been sp
offensive scheme ol things.
Odom ad
press con'
had yet to work in specific linei
Si II, their appeals to be a si
lineup foi ming itsell
1 ook foi Byles
w atkins h he ba ?
;ets. Along the fi line,
(. ii een Morris a: crov nioi
M . hae Gibson appea
e wav
1 he backcouri is sei bui 1 horn
Riow n (a transfei fi om M N
Mack (a junioi .
America last veat) and Mark
Mel aurin (a senioi and stai t
veat agot all are in a very com-
petitive battle for positions al
the front com t.
An interesting battle is also taking
place between sophomore Hetberi
Gilchrisl and freshman Bruce Pear
tree for the honor of being Byles'
backup at the point Gilchrisl has
the edge tot now, but the inex
perienced vet multi-talented Pen
tree appears to be coming strong
Gilchrisl and Peartrec both were
members ol the Gold team Wednes
dA night Both tallied ten points
How good are the Pirates going to
be? There's no wav of knowing vet
More will be known aftei Monday's
night's exhibition with the
Australian national team
(Garnetime is 7 p.m in Minges).
There's a hunch here, though,
that the Pirates will be quite a bit
better than last year. By mid season
look foi the club to be an impressive
one

10
I tit t SI lAROi INI AN
NC) I MBIR I-). W81
Fearless Football Forecast
UNC AT DUKE
CI EMSON AT S. CAROLINA
VIRGINIA AT MARVl AND
MIAMI (Ha.) AT N.C. STATE
SMI AT ARKANSAS
BAYLOR AT TEXAS
rEXAS TECH AT HOUSTON
OKI AHOMA ST. AT IOWA ST.
NOTRI DAME AT PENN STA II-
OHIO STATE AT MICHIGAN
l Cl A Al SOUTHERN CAL
NEBRASKA AT OKI HOMA
CHARLES CHANDLER
(95-34-3)
UNC
Clemson
Maryland
Miami
Arkansas
Texas
Houston
Iowa St.
Penn State
Michigan
Southern Cal
Nebraska
WILLIAM YELVERTON
(91-38-3)
Duke
Clemson
Maryland
Miami
Arkansas
Texas
Houston
Iowa St.
Penn State
Michigan
UCLA
Oklahoma
CHUCK FOSTER
(89-40-3)
Duke
Clemson
Maryland
Miami
SMU
Texas
Houston
Iowa St.
Penn State
Michigan
Southern Cal
Oklahoma
CHRIS HOLLOMAN
(85-43-3)
Duke
Clemson
Maryland
Miami
SMU
Texas
Houston
Oklahoma St.
Penn State
Michigan
Southernal
Oklahoma
JIMMY DuPREE
(78-51-3)
Duke
Clemson
Maryland
N.C. State
Arkansas
Texas
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Iowa St.
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Southern Cal
Nebraska
Pirates Split With Monarchs; j
Travel to Wilmington Saturdays WeU maybeyou should
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U I NDM As BKW1F past
:CU swim mi ng
, oach Ra Scharf came
home pleased after his
Pirates splil a dual meet
at Hd Dominion this
? eekend,
defeating the Monarchs
but tatting to
Maryland.
spot for tne tauics,
though, was the fact
that Jennifer Jayes,
Nancy James, Mona
The women's team McHugh and Nan
lost W)-2 to the lady George teamed to
Monarchs. A bright break the school record
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relay. George broke ed their record to 2-1 The 400-meter relay
another school record with the split. For the team won both days
the 500-freestyle weekend, Kevin with good times.
East Carolina travels
to UNC-Wilmington
this Saturday for a 1:30
meet.
in
event and had two na- Richards won three
tional cuts. Jayes had a events individually
national cut time in the while Scott Eagle and
100-meter backstroke. Stan Williams won two
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